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TechWins
01-27-2003, 02:33 AM
What car would you like to most have that you have a realistic chance of getting? Meaning don't include Ferraris, Porches, Vipers, ect... unless you could actually afford such cars (only cars that are in you're financial range).

I've been looking at buying a car lately, and I've seen some nice cars (along with a lot of crappy ones too lol). My price range is anywhere from around 2k-4k, so I'm looking at cars from years of 92-98. I think the newer (95 and on) Dodge Intrepids look pretty cool, but they're a little bit too big. Honda Accords, also. look nice and are very reliable. My friend has an Infiniti GT, which I think is such a bad ass car, but he plans on trading it in so he can get a 2003 Honda Accord.

So what kind of car would you like to be able to get, or if you truly like your car what kind is it?

EDIT: On a side note, I look at used cars pretty much everynight now, and it has become quite entertaining. I love the cars with the tight rims.:cool: Like this one (http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/vdetail.jtmpl?car_id=120982184&dealer_id=&make=HONDA&distance=75&max_price=5000&model=CIVIC&end_year=1996&advcd_on=n&min_price=0&address=85206&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1992&color=&car_year=1994) and this one (http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/vdetail.jtmpl?car_id=120984175&dealer_id=&make=CHEV&distance=25&max_price=4000&model=&advcd_on=n&end_year=2003&min_price=0&first_record=26&certified=n&address=85233&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1990&=&color=&car_year=1998)

EDIT #2: haha go figure there's already a thread on cars, but I think this thread is a little bit different.

adrianxw
01-27-2003, 03:09 AM
First, for me, a car is a contrivance that gets me from where I am to where I want to be. I don't want the car to be any source of trouble, simply transport. As a result, I don't care what car I drive.

Second, I browsed the car sales sites you linked. It struck me that cars in the US are almost free!

TechWins
01-27-2003, 03:22 AM
As a result, I don't care what car I drive.

Right now I'm not too picky, but if I was able to be flexible on my choice of a car then I would definitely pick something that I thought looked good on top of running well. As I'm sure you would do the same, right?


It struck me that cars in the US are almost free!

Those cars I linked are older cars, so of course the price is low on them. What price would those cars run in other countries?

Also, I should mention that my friend's car is an Infiniti G20 not an Infiniti GT considering that there is no Infiniti GT.

:)

adrianxw
01-27-2003, 04:25 AM
>>>
1998 CHEVROLET CAVALIER - at, 4 dr, am fm cass, pw, pdl, $3700, 602-980-3443,
<<<

That is not an old car.

>>> $3700

That is almost free. I couldn't hazzard a guess as to what such a car, of that age would cost here.

I don't think we have that type of car here, the only models under Chevrolet are Alero, Blazer, Corvette and Trans Sport.

>>> What price would those cars run in other countries?

A 6/94 Civic DX 3d 5g standard, good condition, with no extras shows as 46900 kroner, using 6.9 kroner to a dollar, (wow, isn't the dollar weak right now - I normally reckon on 1$ = 8 Kroner!), gives $6800. To that you would have to add the cost of the extras which are also expensive here.

Source : www.bilpriser.dk - sorry it's in Danish.

RoD
01-27-2003, 04:50 AM
I don't like em, but you can pickup a cheap civic and they get decent gas milage....hmm lets see theres

mitsubishi 3000GT
Honda Civic
Mazda RX7 - good luck finding one, if its being sold its broke :P
Ford Escort....

etc, www.autobytel.com

alpha
01-27-2003, 08:47 AM
I wouldn't recommend an RX7 unless you have the money to maintain it. Honda Civics are reliable, Honda Accords are nice and comfortable.

If you are looking for something reliable and comfortable, I would recommend a Toyota or Honda.

adrianxw
01-27-2003, 09:06 AM
>>> a Toyota

We have a Toyota Corolla. Quite old. Starts first time everytime, but within a minute it is firing on only 2-3 cylinders. This continues until the lousy automatic choke realises it is flooding the engine and backs out - can take up to 10 minutes. The other problem I have with it is the direction indicators stop working in cold weather if you turn the heater on.

civix
01-27-2003, 10:13 AM
Haha. My car is a car NOT! Tis a truck.
2002 Chevy S10, Glossy Flames Paint Job, Euro Tail Lights, Nitrous Oxide, straight-pipe muffler, chrome wheels...
Im already told i can do it. We're gonna go buy the truch in 6 months.
Oh yeah..cant forget the laptop embedded in the dash....i wish :rolleyes:

ober
01-27-2003, 10:19 AM
Here's the car I just bought 2 months ago... mine's a 2000...

http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/photos/index.cfm/id/2396/img/00128991990001.htm

adrianxw
01-27-2003, 10:31 AM
We don't have Oldsmobile at all here. Does Oldsmobile = Chevrolet = General Motors? I noticed we do have a Chevrolet Alero here. and used to have an Opel Cavalier. Opel = GM.

ober
01-27-2003, 10:38 AM
Yes... Oldsmobile is a GM product... and unfortunately, there are talks of cutting the entire Oldsmobile line... GM has so many different products and some are just not the most profitable for them, so they're cutting one or two. I'm not sure whether they decided to cut Oldsmobile or Pontiac.

RoD
01-27-2003, 12:46 PM
>>I wouldn't recommend an RX7 unless you have the money to maintain it.

Being a RX7 owner i would love to hear your reasons why on this. The RX7 is one of the most, if not the most, reliable and long lasting cars you could own. My '87 has tons of race mods, including NOS, and the odom shows 165,745 miles. It starts when i turn the key, runs like a dream, and never complains. My family as a whole has owned many RX7's, and any webforum based on RX7 will tell you that they are in fact almost entirely self maintained.

TravisS
01-27-2003, 01:20 PM
Hmmz, well being a Honda guy myself, if you decide to go the Honda route I would reccomend an Accord over a Civic. I currently have a 2001 Accord Coupe LX 4 Cyl. It's a nice car. Compare the Accords of this year to the Civic's of this year and OMG! Even around the same price region (~$17,000 new) the differences between the car is crazy. While I had my car at the dealership for maintenance they gave me a rental civic. Yuck is all I have to say. Just yuck.

So, if I were you I'd try to go Accord. Unless you prefer the Civic's styling of course :rolleyes:. I sold my '87 Accord hatchback LX-i (top of the line, with 200,000 miles) for about $2,600 with rims, header/catback exaust, and Sony Mobile ES CD deck. That was nearly 2 years ago and I still see it on the road today. So, it probaly has near 230,000 miles on it. You could pick up a 90-93 EX for in your price range. Above that year you'll probably be looking at LX or DX models, or high mileage cars, etc... My car is now worth about $11,000.

alpha
01-27-2003, 02:32 PM
Being a RX7 owner i would love to hear your reasons why on this. The RX7 is one of the most, if not the most, reliable and long lasting cars you could own. My '87 has tons of race mods, including NOS, and the odom shows 165,745 miles. It starts when i turn the key, runs like a dream, and never complains. My family as a whole has owned many RX7's, and any webforum based on RX7 will tell you that they are in fact almost entirely self maintained.

I guess you are one of the lucky ones. Yes, I know the RX-7 could be very reliable, but there is also the problems with the Rotary engine. I have heard, and seen, too may RX-7s have problems with the turbo and the rotary engine. My friends have invested a lot of money to alleviate some of the problems. Yes, they do start and drive hard, but quite a few out there tend to have problems with the turbo and engine that need to be addressed. They can be very reliable, and are a very nice car to have, but as I've said, money to maintain these cars (maybe get new aftermarket parts to replace some stock parts) is needed.


Hmmz, well being a Honda guy myself, if you decide to go the Honda route I would reccomend an Accord over a Civic. I currently have a 2001 Accord Coupe LX 4 Cyl. It's a nice car. Compare the Accords of this year to the Civic's of this year and OMG! Even around the same price region (~$17,000 new) the differences between the car is crazy. While I had my car at the dealership for maintenance they gave me a rental civic. Yuck is all I have to say. Just yuck.

I agree with this, being an Accord owner myself (2000 SE). I recommend getting an accord, but if you are a car enthusiast, getting an Accord, and most Hondas for that matter, to become a pleasure to drive, takes time and money.

But for your budget, you'll most likely be looking at 3rd gen (90 - 93) or 4th gen (94 - 97). Both cars are reliable, haven't heard of too many problems with either generation.

-KEN-
01-27-2003, 02:45 PM
http://www.audiusa.com/model_home/0,,modelId-200301,00.html

I would love to get an A4, but I could probably never manage getting one...

Oh, wait a minute....! :D :D

Fountain
01-27-2003, 04:18 PM
Moan moan moan about the Civics. I have a Civic.

Superb reliability, what would any1 want the accord for unless they have the cash for a sporty model. God damn grandads car otherwise.

Now, a civic 'R' type hit the UK ummmm about 18 months ago- OH WOW. Going to have to save up a bit first though. New cost-16k. What a car though!

http://www.honda.co.uk/new.html

Then click Civic type 'r'.


Check that-a Civic 0-60 in 6.4 secs, 146 MPH? WOWSER

alpha
01-27-2003, 05:32 PM
sorry, this was a typo. correcting it...

you'll most likely be looking at 3rd gen (90 - 93) or 4th gen (94 - 97)

4th gen (90 - 93)

5th gen (94 - 97)

RoD
01-27-2003, 05:40 PM
i think mine was referred to as FC...i know 3rd gen is FD.

I own a lovely cheery-red '87 TII Turbo, 13-B twin rotor. 2mm apex seals (after market), street port, RAM air setup, around 14psi, intercooler, greddy twin turbos, custom straight-pipe exhaust, 10LB NOS setup, mazdaspeed bodykit, '93 style tail lights, APC wing, etc. Theres alot of money i owe my dad wrapped up in her. She opens up at just shy of a clean 10 second 1/4 run at around 115MPH. She owns most stuff round here (cept that other RX7, its an FD but it runs on alcohol so i don't feel so bad!).

Govtcheez
01-27-2003, 06:03 PM
I've got a 95 Olds Cutlass (and yeah, Oldsmobile's being cut - AFAIK, you shouldn't be seeing any 2004 models of any of their cars) with ~160K on it - Hopefully it'll last me another year until I'm out of school - I'm thinking my next car'll be a Jeep Wrangler...

My dream car is a Porsche - hopefully I'll have one eventually, but I'm not holding my breath.

adrian - maybe if there were many cars made in Denmark, they'd be cheaper? (said the totally ignorant man)

Shadow
01-27-2003, 06:04 PM
2002 Firebird V6 or V8 model

...and nitros, nos, turbo charge...you're asking for trouble
Same for front-wheel and autos...front-wheel will fall apart on ya trying to test that 0-60 rating..cheap shafts - rear-wheel shafts have balls..front wheel, it's suprising they even work

V4 won't take you too far over 100mph.

If you want lamborghini speed, simply buy one.

Govtcheez
01-27-2003, 06:06 PM
> 2002 Firebird V6 or V8 model

Which are also having their production cut (Camaro, too - they're the same chassis with slightly different bodies) in the next couple years.

Shadow
01-27-2003, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Govtcheez
> 2002 Firebird V6 or V8 model

Which are also having their production cut (Camaro, too - they're the same chassis with slightly different bodies) in the next couple years. I'm well aware.

Right now, we're being flooded with front-wheel bull crap and fuel economy. WOOHOO GAS MILEAGE! zero performance :rolleyes:

RoD
01-27-2003, 06:24 PM
mines RWD and the rotory motors are quiv to a V8 (least the 13B is, some are beyond it.).

>>If you want lamborghini speed, simply buy one.

I'll outhandle it anyday, thats where quicness and handling own top end.

Shadow
01-27-2003, 06:32 PM
> I'll outhandle it anyday, thats where quicness and handling own top end.
Wow, V12, 6 dual carbs, 0-215mph in 25 seconds.

I don't even want a ghini, something reasonable...but, if you're into it THAT much..then damn man. ...slightest gust of wind and you're a ping pong ball. :D

minesweeper
01-27-2003, 06:33 PM
>>V4 won't take you too far over 100mph.<<

That's ok. Don't know of many places in the world where it's legal to go over about 70mph :D

>>WOOHOO GAS MILEAGE! zero performance<<

He he. It's funny the difference in attitude. Come to England, pay 80p per litre (about $1.20) of petrol and then see if you have the same feelings about fuel economy. :)

I drive a 1.1 litre Ford Fiesta. It's cheap, reliable and dead easy to maintain. Oh and living in London, it gets me about just a quickly as if I owned a Ferrari. Apparently the average speed in London is about 8mph.

Shadow
01-27-2003, 06:36 PM
> Don't know of many places in the world where it's legal to go over about 70mph
Of course it's not legal. Legal isn't defined as impossible, just not within the law. For instance, I ran a stop sign at 75mph once...but, nothing came of it.

dP munky
01-27-2003, 06:40 PM
Don't know of many places in the world where it's legal to go over about 70mph

i think you can in montana?? not sure though, and why cant we put viper, for programmers that are making between 45-60 thousand, i dont see why i couldnt afford one, especially since theyre only 64,000?? :)

Shadow
01-27-2003, 06:45 PM
> i think you can in montana??
Montana's interstate used to be reasonable and prudent. I have a photograph of that sign. But now, because of fuel economy and the government funding for roads, they bumped it down to 75mph. So, you can get away with 85mph or so. I was husting along at 90mph and peaked at 93 several times with both my parents in the car. Cop only flashed his lights at me - "slow it down"

alpha
01-27-2003, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by RoD
i think mine was referred to as FC...i know 3rd gen is FD.

I own a lovely cheery-red '87 TII Turbo, 13-B twin rotor. 2mm apex seals (after market), street port, RAM air setup, around 14psi, intercooler, greddy twin turbos, custom straight-pipe exhaust, 10LB NOS setup, mazdaspeed bodykit, '93 style tail lights, APC wing, etc. Theres alot of money i owe my dad wrapped up in her. She opens up at just shy of a clean 10 second 1/4 run at around 115MPH. She owns most stuff round here (cept that other RX7, its an FD but it runs on alcohol so i don't feel so bad!).

:drool:

__________

there were some i4s that are pretty quick. i.e. the venom civic. but there is also a 4000 hp integra, tuned by Bob Norwood.

the RX-7s are very nice cars.

build a fwd car correctly, you would actually lose some of its gas economy, but it will be quick.

also, the term v4 is incorrect for most if not all 4 cyls. the cylinders don't have that v shape, they are usually inline, or horizontal.

MethodMan
01-27-2003, 09:09 PM
I would go with a Volkswagen, cant go wrong with German Engineering. Those are wicked cars and built to last. I think you may be able to find one in your price range.

I hat hondas so I wouldnt even look at them.....


Regarding a car that I may purchase when I get a nice paying job, either a VW, a Volvo or Jag... Well see I guess.

RoD
01-28-2003, 04:43 AM
>>Wow, V12, 6 dual carbs, 0-215mph in 25 seconds.


sure, its fast, but how much of that speed can it do in a hairpin turn? Thats what i mean by handle...

>>drool

lol, the only problem with my car is i'm so paranoid it'll get stolen, wrecked, or otherwise.

ammar
01-28-2003, 04:44 AM
The civic is a great car, and an economical one also, and although is light it's stable on the road, and that's what I like about it.
But I prefer American cars, I think they are the best, especially old ones, between the 70's and the 80's.

minesweeper
01-28-2003, 10:42 AM
Any car?

This one!! (http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/capri7002/out/db7gt.htm)

windoze victim
02-22-2003, 06:37 PM
Stolen car can be warded off by doing what my friend's dad does with his corvette. He has two separate rows of hidden switches that need to be in the correct positions to start the car.

Oh, one of my friends on my team has a vette, with a new engine, and she says, "Well, I guess its a good car, it gets me to school and back."
Guess what all the guys are doing? ::drooling:: (careful not to drool on the car)

Govtcheez
02-22-2003, 06:44 PM
Bumperooooooo