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zahid
01-26-2003, 01:36 AM
hay.. anyone of you ever thought of one unique universal programming language ?

Everyone will learn and share knowledge of that one and work on it and with it. That would be faster development in programming language and software development industries.

What would be the demerit of it?

Brian
01-26-2003, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by zahid

What would be the demerit of it?

goto

adrianxw
01-26-2003, 04:21 AM
"Jack of all trades, master of none."

I believe part of the design rationale behind ADA was to be all things to everyone and look what a monster that is.

Magos
01-26-2003, 04:43 AM
All programming languages have their advantages/disadvantages. I doubt there will ever be a "universal language" to fit all needs.
And even if one language did have the functionality from all languages, it would probably be slow...

Shiro
01-26-2003, 05:06 AM
I agree with Magos. The reason why there are so many programming languages is that each field of application has its specific needs. If you want a universal programming language, it should support embedded programming, application programming, webprogramming etc. It would be a huge language and certainly not optimal for a wide range of applications.

face_master
01-26-2003, 06:12 AM
Exactly. If this universal language had the functionality it would require to be such a language, it would be complex and hard for beginners to learn (ie. C/C++)

If you want a crappy prototype, VB can be used. If you want your app to do something, C++. If you want to be a dickhead about it, Java. You get the point..

zahid
01-26-2003, 07:28 AM
hmm.. I do have all those points but....

You.. we already know that it's impossible, then there will never be any.

But we still working with 0101010101

Which benefits we can expect ?

Shiro
01-26-2003, 08:46 AM
>But we still working with 0101010101

Yes, but that is because the electronics we currently use for computing works that way.

>Which benefits we can expect ?

From what? From a universal programming language? I wonder if it would have more advantages than the currently most used languages would have. Current most used languages are almost standardised, well known and well supported by a lot of organisations and tools.

civix
01-26-2003, 11:17 AM
Yeah, and think about the size of the compilers or whathaveyou...

ober
01-26-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by face_master
If you want a crappy prototype, VB can be used. If you want your app to do something, C++. If you want to be a dickhead about it, Java. You get the point..

They always said you can tell your age/experience by what you post... I never believed it..... now I do. :)

Leeman_s
01-26-2003, 09:20 PM
...and I now know how old ober is :)

Scourfish
01-26-2003, 11:44 PM
I think Brain**** is pretty universal.

face_master
01-27-2003, 01:05 AM
Ober, thats not true. No one knew how old I was untill I either told you, or when I started to post (as Fordy puts it) rubbish. And I just posted that cause I wanted to say the thing about It sounded cool at the time...

face_master
01-27-2003, 01:07 AM
>> I think Brain**** is pretty universal.

Maybe among like 5 people ...

adrianxw
01-27-2003, 03:00 AM
Cut the personal slanging matches or I will.

face_master
01-27-2003, 03:55 AM
As much as they want you to believe it is, Java is not a person.

RoD
01-27-2003, 05:04 AM
One universal programming language would have more downsides then benifits, imo. By the time enough programmers learned it for it to be widely used, someone would invent something new that the language couldn't adapt too, and it than in turn is a pointless obsolete language.

Leeman_s
01-27-2003, 03:25 PM
RoD, you have your "than" and "then" mixed up. Go here to find out more:

http://www.ruthvilmi.net/hut/help/grammar_help/

zahid
01-28-2003, 12:07 AM
So.. we can predict that Universal Programming Language is never possible.

ammar
01-28-2003, 04:22 AM
There shouldn't be any universal language, because the different languages give programmers the chance to choose the one they feel is more suitable, so they become more creative or at least the job of programming is made easier.

RoD
01-28-2003, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Leeman_s
RoD, you have your "than" and "then" mixed up. Go here to find out more:

http://www.ruthvilmi.net/hut/help/grammar_help/

ever hear of a typo? And i don't think bashing a mod in your title is appropriate, loser.

Travis Dane
01-28-2003, 10:47 AM
One single universally used programming won't ever be possible
i think. Simply because whe need different programming
language for different products. Whe can't write an high graphic
benchmark with assembly, but whe can't write a piece of very
fast code without using assembly.

ggs
01-28-2003, 11:34 AM
There shouldn't be any universal language, because the different languages give programmers the chance to specialize in a language, making employers pay different coders to maintain old stuff and write in the language of the moment, so they become more creative or at least the job of programming is made easier.


fixd

edit: i good at vbcode

Panopticon
01-28-2003, 06:29 PM
The universal programming language is binary imo.
But that just proves the point of why so many different languages exist because in theory, you can make anything with binary but would you want to?
lol. Ill be damned when little kiddies toggle in 800,000 + bits just to make a half-arsed homepage. :p

Scourfish
01-28-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by face_master
>> I think Brain**** is pretty universal.

Maybe among like 5 people ...

Boo-yah! The underground brain**** movement is going up in this world!

civix
01-28-2003, 08:08 PM
Can someone tell me about this Brain**** thing? Im pretty lost.

Scourfish
01-28-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by civix
Can someone tell me about this Brain**** thing? Im pretty lost.

Hello world in Brain****:



>+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.[-]>++++++++[<++++>-]
<.#>+++++++++++[<+++++>-]<.>++++++++[<+++>-]<.+++.------.--------.[-]>++++++++[
<++++>-]<+.[-]++++++++++.

Panopticon
01-28-2003, 10:55 PM
Can someone tell me about this Brain**** thing? Im pretty lost.

Is that the actual name of the ummm 'language' or do those asterisks censor somethin dirty?

KingoftheWorld
01-28-2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by zahid
hay.. anyone of you ever thought of one unique universal programming language ?

Everyone will learn and share knowledge of that one and work on it and with it. That would be faster development in programming language and software development industries.

What would be the demerit of it?

Just use a common sense, man! There is no human( natural) language to be a universal language for the whole World even though English and Spanish seems dominant.

Same to the programming languages.
KingoftheWorld

Scourfish
01-29-2003, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Panopticon
Is that the actual name of the ummm 'language' or do those asterisks censor somethin dirty?

it is the f word censored

zahid
01-29-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by KingoftheWorld
Just use a common sense, man! There is no human( natural) language to be a universal language for the whole World even though English and Spanish seems dominant.

Same to the programming languages.
KingoftheWorld


Yeah.. I did. Why don't you try yourself to get an answer.
Is Programming language & Human Language comparative?

How did human language evolved? Who speaks in those languages?
How did programming language evolved? Who speaks in those languages?
Is there anything already common among those who are speaking in programming language?

I just asked to Count the Possibility of Universal Programming Language.

Now you may run a probability test on
Universal Human Language Vs Universal Programming Language
: )