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cpluspluser__
01-05-2003, 07:45 PM
http://c.ittoolbox.com/news/dispnews.asp?i=86259&t=99

RoD
01-05-2003, 08:08 PM
no offense but they've been doing lunix on xbox since bout two months after it came out.

Sang-drax
01-06-2003, 06:25 AM
Not without hardware modifications.



yesterday revealed himself as the donor of $200,000 that will be paid to whoever can make the Linux operating system run on an unmodified Microsoft Xbox gaming console.

civix
01-06-2003, 07:52 AM
OoOooooOOoooO...I heard about that.
If I had an Xbox, i'd do it. Im not kidding.

ober
01-06-2003, 08:08 AM
check slashdot.org Sunday's posts... it's actually only 100 grand... the 200 is split between the one with and the one without hardware mods... get your facts straight before posting next time...

Govtcheez
01-06-2003, 08:10 AM
> it's actually only 100 grand...

Well, then it's not worth it! :p

ober
01-06-2003, 08:41 AM
*sigh*... see title...

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01-06-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by ober5861
check slashdot.org Sunday's posts... it's actually only 100 grand... the 200 is split between the one with and the one without hardware mods... get your facts straight before posting next time...

if those two turn out to be the same person, then it WOULD be $200k :P

ober
01-06-2003, 11:25 AM
true... and you'd have an accurate answer there if the origional thread creater had specified that in the title. To simply get linux to run on the Xbox is a $100 grand prize... as stated.

ober
01-06-2003, 11:26 AM
why do i care about details all of a sudden?? :rolleyes:

Sang-drax
01-06-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by ober5861
check slashdot.org Sunday's posts... it's actually only 100 grand... the 200 is split between the one with and the one without hardware mods... get your facts straight before posting next time...

Get his facts straight? Jeez.. :rolleyes:
I do not doubt that your information is true, but even CNN (which must be considered a reliable source) doen't mention it in this article:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games/01/03/bounty.game.reut/index.html

Please, not everyone is frequenting slashdot...

-KEN-
01-06-2003, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by ober5861
*sigh*... see title...

I don't get it...."Modded"? What's that supposed to mean...?

ober
01-06-2003, 01:11 PM
I posted something in reply to GC's post... in the form of the letters that make up a certain smilie on FD... and someone deleted it.

ober
01-06-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Sang-drax
Get his facts straight? Jeez.. :rolleyes:
I do not doubt that your information is true, but even CNN (which must be considered a reliable source) doen't mention it in this article:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games/01/03/bounty.game.reut/index.html

Please, not everyone is frequenting slashdot...

SO if CNN said the sky was falling, would you believe that too?

Don't take everything you read, even from a reliable source as being 100% correct all the time.

Besides... who do you think is more correct... a general news site or a techie/nerd site on this subject?

Govtcheez
01-06-2003, 01:14 PM
CNN's tech news is usually, like most mainstream media, either way off base or incomplete.

codingmaster
01-06-2003, 01:34 PM
You can't get another os running on the xbox without BIOS modification or a new chip (MOD Chip)

Yeah, but there are resoures about getting linux on the Xbox on the net, but I don't know, if it really works, cause I haven't got a Xbox.

When I have one, I gonna run it as linux server *g*

Linux kills M$ 4 ever :))))))

Govtcheez
01-06-2003, 01:37 PM
> without BIOS modification

Does the BIOS tell the Xbox it can only run whatever version of Windows is on there?

ober
01-06-2003, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by codingmaster
Linux kills M$ 4 ever :))))))

wow... you and GC are brothers? :)

Sang-drax
01-06-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by ober5861
Besides... who do you think is more correct... a general news site or a techie/nerd site on this subject?

Ahhh! I explicitly said that I thought you were right!

I just meant that you shouldn't flame/blame a person for posting info from a reliable source. :rolleyes:

ober
01-06-2003, 03:16 PM
i know what you said... but you obviously didn't read what GC or I wrote... CNN is not noted for it's accurate Tech news... hence, not reliable in this field.

Dalren
01-06-2003, 04:30 PM
To run Linux (or anything else for that matter, hmm windows on an xbox hows that for a monopoly in a box) you either need to modify the hardware or have Microsoft's private key that they use to digitaly sign programs.

The Xbox is basicly equiped with a sort of "Palladium Lite" so that only programs signed by microsoft will be executed.

So what they need to do is crack Microsoft's private key. Hmm RSA 2048 bit asymetric key, yeah that will be real easy to crack ;)

Govtcheez
01-06-2003, 04:53 PM
> RSA 2048 bit asymetric key,

That's a bit of overkill for a game console, isn't it?

Dalren
01-06-2003, 09:44 PM
I would agree GW, it is overkill. But you have to remember that the DRM system in the XBox was Microsoft's first test for their upcoming Palladium system. So they wanted to make it as secure as possible. Granted they didn't do very well, a Phd. candidate at MIT got arbitrary code running on an Xbox in less than a year I believe.

And just for everyone's info, it took 5 years for distributed.net to crack a 64 bit RSA key, the largest RSA key ever cracked (at least publicly) was for the RSA-155 challenge, it was 512 bits, and took over 35 cpu years. RSA (so probably slightly biased) estimates that you would need 320 million 520 MHz Pentium-class machines to crack a 1024-bit key in one year, and so you would need 2^100 times that for a 2048-bit key, RSA also has a $200,000 prize for the first person to crack a 2048 bit RSA key, so I guess that makes the pot $300,000. And if my research / math is correct it would take approximately 10^53 times the age of the universe to crack it if working at the same speed Distributed.net worked at. Wow thats depressing

face_master
01-06-2003, 11:23 PM
Whoa. Lindows (http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_screenshots.php?desktop=yes) does look pretty cool.