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geophyzzer
12-31-2002, 05:08 PM
Just curious here, what language do you use the most in your work? This is not a discussion of which language is best, just which one do you use the most. For the record, I vote Perl.

Polymorphic OOP
12-31-2002, 05:10 PM
I voted C++. I just love love love OOP and the low-level access that C++ provides.

joshdick
12-31-2002, 05:14 PM
Yeah, I voted for C++. The more I understand OOP, the more I love it. It really helps to shorten how much code you need in your progams, and it's reusable.

Imperito
12-31-2002, 06:00 PM
I use English the most. Not really my choice, my organization uses it as a standard.

bob20
12-31-2002, 06:27 PM
I definetly use c++ the most of any language.

abrege
12-31-2002, 06:30 PM
<- C++ for all reasons stated above

Brian
12-31-2002, 07:25 PM
c++
for the sex appeal.

alpha
12-31-2002, 07:56 PM
C++

only language I really know how to program in, other than html (which is still a language, not necessarily a programming one though).

crag2804
12-31-2002, 08:31 PM
English

face_master
12-31-2002, 08:33 PM
My own slant of jibberish.

zahid
12-31-2002, 11:37 PM
First Bangla, then English :)

For programming language:
Definitely C , then Perl

Dissata
01-01-2003, 12:59 AM
Cprogramming.com hmmm, I think that narrows it down a bit

anyway I mostly use C++ with the occasional C. I find C++ easier to use with all but the smallest projects (thanks to oop) currently learning to master win32 and Directx. bahh humbug!! bloody microsoft and their damn Hungarian notation :)

joshdick
01-01-2003, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by Dissata bahh humbug!! bloody microsoft and their damn Hungarian notation :)

Um, just wondering, what is Hungarian notation?

-=SoKrA=-
01-01-2003, 04:17 AM
I use Spanish and English most. Trying to learn French but no exactly because I'm interested. After that C++ and a bit of JavaScript.
Happy new year!

face_master
01-01-2003, 04:26 AM
>> Um, just wondering, what is Hungarian notation?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvsgen/html/HungaNotat.asp

joshdick
01-01-2003, 04:43 AM
Wow, that Hungarian notation is totally incomprehesible. Why would someone spend so much time to come up with a system of naming identifiers if that system would yield such undecipherable identifiers as these:

1 #include "sy.h"
2 extern int *rgwDic;
3 extern int bsyMac;
4 struct SY *PsySz(char sz[])
6 {
7 char *pch;
8 int cch;
9 struct SY *psy, *PsyCreate();
10 int *pbsy;
11 int cwSz;
12 unsigned wHash=0;
13 pch=sz;
14 while (*pch!=0
15 wHash=(wHash<>11+*pch++;
16 cch=pch-sz;
17 pbsy=&rgbsyHash[(wHash&077777)%cwHash];
18 for (; *pbsy!=0; pbsy = &psy->bsyNext)
19 {
20 char *szSy;
21 szSy= (psy=(struct SY*)&rgwDic[*pbsy])->sz;
22 pch=sz;
23 while (*pch==*szSy++)
24 {
25 if (*pch++==0)
26 return (psy);
27 }
28 }
29 cwSz=0;
30 if (cch>=2)
31 cwSz=(cch-2/sizeof(int)+1;
32 *pbsy=(int *)(psy=PsyCreate(cwSY+cwSz))-rgwDic;
33 Zero((int *)psy,cwSY);
34 bltbyte(sz, psy->sz, cch+1);
35 return(psy);
36 }
That code just makes me want to cry except for 'bltbyte' which makes me want a BLT.

adrianxw
01-01-2003, 04:58 AM
Currently C++, but it changes with the project/application. Sometimes Pascal, (Delphi), sometimes Fortran.

BTW, your name geophyzzer, and your mention of MATLAB bought horrid memories of strain ellipsoids and the like back to me!

Shiro
01-01-2003, 05:07 AM
At work I currently use C most. But I think in new projects I will use C++ and Java more.

face_master
01-01-2003, 05:37 AM
Shiro, do you just use plain C, or do you use some API(s)?

Shiro
01-01-2003, 06:00 AM
We use a lot of APIs, usually our customers provide us with APIs for their products. Our company has no own products, we do development projects for companies. Only if they haven't or if we have to develop new hardware, we have to write APIs by ourselves.

ammar
01-01-2003, 07:45 AM
C++
Althought I know Visual Basic, and Java, but they are not compared to C++, I enjoy coding in C++ more than any other language.

codingmaster
01-01-2003, 08:48 AM
C++ 4 president *g

Why haven't u add PHP to the poll?

PHP is the most used Apache module?

And is running on 25% of the net servers!!!

I use a lot of php for different projects (for the most database stuff)

Prelude
01-01-2003, 10:30 AM
Everyone will be shocked to learn that I use C the most at work. Though I have been known to use C++ a little and Perl extensively for my own uses.

-Prelude

Polymorphic OOP
01-01-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Prelude
Everyone will be shocked to learn that I use C the most at work.

Shocked... except for the fact that you've mentioned it many many times :rolleyes:

Anyways, C++ owns C. End of discussion! :p

frenchfry164
01-01-2003, 11:34 AM
c++ has more sylables, therefore it is a better language:D. Visual Basic has too many sylables, therefore it sucks.

You don't like hungarian notation? I think it's great myself. I constantly forget variable types, and when the variables pop-up on the autocomplete in VC++ I can say "Oh, it starts with a n, must be an int".

face_master
01-01-2003, 06:31 PM
I never use hungarian notation. It complexifies your code. In MSVC++ I just place my cursor over where a variable use used and a tooltip comes up showing how it was declared.

Scourfish
01-01-2003, 08:43 PM
English

geophyzzer
01-02-2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by adrianxw
Currently C++, but it changes with the project/application. Sometimes Pascal, (Delphi), sometimes Fortran.

BTW, your name geophyzzer, and your mention of MATLAB bought horrid memories of strain ellipsoids and the like back to me!

Mmmm...strain ellipsoids...

Waitaminute...I didn't like structural geology...probably why I got into seismology.

And MATLAB rocks, for those who don't know it...if nothing else, it got me a job in Hawaii ;)

Dissata
01-02-2003, 05:41 PM
face_master, same here, but reading examples with Hungarian Notation makes me want to kill someone.

NANO
01-02-2003, 06:30 PM
C++ is the best that human ever creat....
C++ Almost like a CHAVY S.U.V.; IF you know how to drive it; THE ROAD IS YOURS..

joshdick
01-02-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by NANO
C++ is the best that human ever creat....
C++ Almost like a CHAVY S.U.V.; IF you know how to drive it; THE ROAD IS YOURS..

I can't believe your likening C++ to an SUV. SUVs are bulky, ineffiecent, and dangerous; studies show that SUVs are likely to tip over even in low speed crashes. On the other hand, C++, written correctly, is elegant and safe. I don't see how the two are anything like each other.

beege31337
01-03-2003, 02:49 AM
I'm the only one using Java, I feel so alone.

The library functions make everything so simple. I can make a web browser or an e-mail client in like two pages of code. Plus I can use the binary on my linux or windows box. ( and i'm forgetful sometimes so automatic garbage-collection is nice )

btw: I don't think java is the best, hell , I use C++ in all my courses ; but I just don't think Java should be ruled out for certain desktop applications.

face_master
01-03-2003, 02:56 AM
Tsk tsk tsk. Another Java biach. The force is weak with this one, sir.

joshdick
01-03-2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by face_master
Tsk tsk tsk. Another Java biach. The force is weak with this one, sir.

I don't know anything about java, so I was just wondering, why do you hate it so much? What makes it worse than C++?

On a side note, does anyone else find 86 votes for FORTRAN to be a little suspicious?

Shiro
01-03-2003, 03:59 AM
>I'm the only one using Java, I feel so alone.

Well, I use Java too and I like it, but it's currently not my most used language.

face_master
01-03-2003, 04:13 AM
>>why do you hate it so much? What makes it worse than C++?

Read some award winning literacy (http://www.cprogramming.com/cboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26997&highlight=java) by face_master ;)

ober
01-03-2003, 10:56 AM
ok... who is the ***** that messed up with the poll with the 86 Fortran votes?

geophyzzer
01-03-2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by joshdick
On a side note, does anyone else find 86 votes for FORTRAN to be a little suspicious?

Yeah, that seems a little odd to me, too. Sigh.

adrianxw
01-03-2003, 01:57 PM
>>> ok... who is the ***** that messed up with the poll with the 86 Fortran votes?

I suspect the ***** that "messed up the poll" was me.

When people post new polls on the board, they inevitably fail to set an expiration date, or set a ridiculously long one. Since voting in an old thread bumps it, (against the board rules), I habitually open all new polls that get posted and either set or modify, (as necessary), the poll expiry date, (rarely more than 7 days).

Most of the polls are so dumb, I don't bother voting, but in this case I did, however, instead of going back up through the menu tree, and then coming back down again, I edited the vote count for Fortran to "whatever it was + 1".

So far this is fact.

Now I'm guessing, when I did that, I probably missed the delete key and then typed the "next" digit, thus making the figure /much/ larger than it should have been. I have now split the difference and set Fortran to 7. I believe this to be fair.

Anyone who chooses to differ, is free, (as at any time), to PM me or another mod.

If anyone /knows/ different - then my guess was wrong of course. Also, perhaps there really are more Fortran fans out there than we suspect...

sean345
01-03-2003, 06:17 PM
I prefer C over C++, contrary to most people here.

- Sean

threahdead
01-05-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by sean345
I prefer C over C++, contrary to most people here.

i do prefer C over C++ aswell.

Travis Dane
01-06-2003, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by threahdead
i do prefer C over C++ aswell.

Care to share why?
Has C something that C++ hasn't? (besides the Xtra speed)

Govtcheez
01-06-2003, 08:08 AM
> ok... who is the ***** that messed up with the poll with the 86 Fortran votes?


::raises hand::

These polls are such a waste of time. People, we're on a board for cprogramming. You expect an even cross section of programmers here? Poll a general programming newsgroup or something.

ober
01-06-2003, 08:22 AM
*smacks Cheez's hand*... BAD CHEEZ

actually, I really didn't care... just needed a reason to type... or something...

adrianxw
01-06-2003, 01:30 PM
>>> ::raises hand::

Okay, so ignore what I said earlier!

Govtcheez
01-06-2003, 01:33 PM
Even w/ your amended value for it, it's interesting to see that there are more Fortran programmers than C#, here... Is C, perhaps, closer to Fortran (having never used Fortran)?

Polymorphic OOP
01-06-2003, 01:42 PM
more likely people are just trying to be funny

Shiro
01-06-2003, 01:45 PM
A friend of mine uses Fortran a lot, he uses it for parallel programming, he makes simulations. I haven't understand yet why, but it seems that Fortran is a good choice for parallel computing systems.

I think C is closer than Fortran than C#. I thought Pascal was even closer to Fortran than C, but I could be wrong since I'm told Fortran has changed a lot during the many years it is used.

SKINp
01-06-2003, 04:31 PM
Flash and another language caled Game Maker... yes, its espacially made for doing games...

You want it... it's free go to

Gamke maker website (http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/markov/gmaker/index.html)

NANO
01-06-2003, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by joshdick
I can't believe your likening C++ to an SUV. SUVs are bulky, ineffiecent, and dangerous; studies show that SUVs are likely to tip over even in low speed crashes. On the other hand, C++, written correctly, is elegant and safe. I don't see how the two are anything like each other.


I agree, it is very dangerous, but as I said , If you know how to drive it, it is very safe,

Any language, as any car are dangerous, but it depends on the driver. Have you try the shavy TAHOE 2003, it is fun. strong motor, as great as C++