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The_Developer
12-28-2002, 01:29 PM
Hi,

I have been learning Visual Basic for a long time alongside ADO, DAO, SQL Server 2000, SQL, Access Databases.

I have been look for jobs for ages but I can't seem to get my foot in the IT industry. It seems like the industry is totally dead (in the UK).

Getting a Degree is not possible for me at this moment. So what advice can you give me?

Whats the latest hot technologies that will get me a job?

Thanks

Shadow12345
12-28-2002, 01:40 PM
I don't have a job so I'm not going to suggest anything. I'll list some names of people on these threads that do have jobs so you can talk to them. There are probably more that I don't know of.

prelude
shiro
ober
foniks munkee
nvoigt
the Wookie

of course those people all only claim to have jobs, its entirely possible they're lying, but according to this (http://www.cprogramming.com/cboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31165) thread they aren't.

Hope things get better.

OneStiffRod
12-28-2002, 02:54 PM
Going to school is probably the best way to get your foot in the door. You can take Internships and get hooked up with a nice job through the college.

Usually there are things called student loans that you can take out there that don't require you to pay anything back until you graduate, 4 or 5yrs from this point.

Another way is too just get involved with projects, either open-source or otherwise. This industry is more about tangible results than actual degrees, if you can point to actual websites, programs, projects with finished/released programs it shouldn't be a problem to get your foot in anywhere if you have this on your CV as you call it.

There are INDY game companies or even just MOD's of games who are looking for programmers, of course they don't pay but they provide valuable experience and hopefully a nice end product with your name in the CREDITS.

Shadow12345
12-28-2002, 03:50 PM
Rod's right, getting a college degree is the best way to get a software development job



Whats the latest hot technologies that will get me a job?


I don't think there is any one single hot technology that will get you a job, it depends on the job. C++ under windows and Unix development is most common.

www.computerwork.com
www.justcjobs.com
www.brainbuzz.com
www.cplusplusjobs.com

adrianxw
12-29-2002, 03:56 AM
The entire IT sector is pretty quiet right now. Trying to find a job when you are qualified and experienced is difficult. Without either, it will be more difficult, you will be competing with people who have both.

It is currently predicted that the downturn will reverse Q2 2003, but then they have been saying "now + 2 quarters" since the beginning of the year!

Best advice, as you say you cannot go for qualification, is to learn more stuff. The more tools you have in your box, the wider range of applications you can deal with becomes.

Web programming is likely to continue being in demand, (try Java, perl or similar), and C++ of course for applications and embedded systems.

Shiro
12-29-2002, 04:01 AM
Economy is down and it is hard to find a job. Like a lot of other companies in the Netherlands, my company has recently fired a lot of software engineers. Also a lot of companies have stopped their recruitment activities.

All job in software engineering currently require one to have at least a bachelor or master title (ing. or ir. titles in the Netherlands).

The latest hot technologies? That depends on where you want to work. From what I see you've been working on is that you want to work in databases, servers, datacommunication or something like that. I don't know much about it, but from what I've read I think MS .NET, J2EE are the hottest items. So learning Java and C# is good.

-KEN-
12-29-2002, 01:29 PM
I haven't seen all that much demand for .NET skills yet, so holding off on your C# and learning it in leisure would probably best. I see a lot of demand for Java, Visual C++, Word, Excel, Databases, Windows 95, and Windows CE.