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doubleanti
12-26-2002, 02:25 PM
any recommendations on amazon.com for something under ten bucks? haha, i'm looking for something to start me off with VHDL. =)~ or well, anything you think i'd enjoy... thanks!

maes
12-26-2002, 02:40 PM
VHDL???? you got to be kidding
who wants to learn that?
I'm learning because I have to, and I'm stuck with a very simple program, aaarg this bug is driving me crazy, oh well

if you're intrested in the guts of a microprocesor, try
Computer Organization & design.
by David Patterson and John Hennessy.
ISBN 1-55860-491-X

I had to by this book for school, but it is intresting.
It explains how to implement assembler instructions (like lw, jmp, sw, add) in hardware. and it goes until port level, designing the datapath, controlpath and stuf like that (studying this right now)


BTW, do you a have a win2k version of your behold prog yet?

doubleanti
12-26-2002, 02:44 PM
well seeing as how i'm an EE major i guess i should get started sooner than later. haha

what do you recommend to learn then? under 10 bucks. =)~

maes
12-26-2002, 03:01 PM
If you want to learn VHDL, here's (http://www.bluepc.com/download.html#downloadtop) a free compiler from bluepc (http://www.bluepc.com/) and the manual (http://www.bluepc.com/download/blueuser.pdf) . I don't think it is a great program, we use it at school (and it sucks IMHO, but it is free). It should get you started.
And yes, if you're a EE major then you should learn it. Maybe I overreacted a bit, but it is because I'm stuck a the moment with my (very simple )program :mad: .

doubleanti
12-26-2002, 04:25 PM
thanks there. i talked to my cousin seeing him over christmas break and he told me there were other commercially viable HDLs like 'ock' (don't know if that's the correct spelling), and um, well i forget at the moment. but is there any faq on the subject? i'd imagine there's a whole set of bias' on the hardware side as much as there is on the software side. i just want to get a head start with a clear view. thanks!

maes
12-26-2002, 04:42 PM
hmmm faq. I never searched for tutorials or faq on the internet. i got al my info from my books from school. They won't help you much because they're dutch.

But I (well, not me, my teacher) did found a vhdl reference pdf (ftp://hercules.uni-mb.si/PUB/Lattice/vhdl_ref.pdf) and a tutorial (http://www.ece.wpi.edu/courses/ee3815/suppnotes/vhdltut/intropg.htm) . Maybe that can get you started a bit.