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face_master
12-07-2002, 02:37 AM
I really wanna get this (http://shop.microsoft.com/Referral/productInfo.asp?siteID=11131) I could get it - wouldn't take me too long to get the money...or will it be a complete disappointment?

Shadow
12-07-2002, 02:44 AM
Don't you need the .NET framework to run anything created with it?

I have Visual Studio.NET which includes both C++ & Visual Basic(if not others)but, I think you need the framework to use executables made.

Shadow
12-07-2002, 02:50 AM
Bah, I'm confused now...

In a recent thread of mine, I found this reply from someone:
> Of the Visual Studio .NET languages, only Visual C++ .NET can compile unmanaged code (standard i386 Win32 PE executables).

A quote from your link
> Managed Extensions for C++
> Managed Extensions for C++ are a set of language extensions that enable C++ developers to write applications for the .NET Framework.
They go on to talk about managed code.

That unmanaged/managed code bit gets my head a spinning. They use the word too much.

Unmanaged DOES NOT need the .NET framework.

face_master
12-07-2002, 03:41 AM
I think you need the framework to use executables made.Does anybody know if this is true?

Polymorphic OOP
12-07-2002, 03:46 AM
No, it's not true.

face_master
12-07-2002, 03:51 AM
Does anybody know of a manual or something to get for when I buy this? Or does it come with complete documentation of how to use .NET?

Polymorphic OOP
12-07-2002, 03:55 AM
I'm guessing it comes with documentation, if not, MSDN online will probably have anything you'd have questions about.

Also, keep in mind that you need XP

face_master
12-07-2002, 03:57 AM
>> Also, keep in mind that you need XP

Yeah, ofcourse. You dont think i'd be stupid enough to buy MS Visual C++.NET without XP, do you?

// edit: yeh, sorry bout that...:o

Polymorphic OOP
12-07-2002, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by face_master
Yeah, ofcourse. You dont think i'd be stupid enough to buy MS Visual C++.NET with XP, do you?

I can only assume that was a typo for without :p

face_master
12-07-2002, 04:36 AM
Ive oficially decided to by Mircroft Visual C++.NET and this book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072132817/qid%3D1039256687/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/102-2498298-1058522) to help me with it.

Shadow
12-07-2002, 12:26 PM
> Ive oficially decided to by Mircroft Visual C++.NET
Good luck. :)

OneStiffRod
12-07-2002, 04:25 PM
I wonder what happened to all the good deals there used to be...?

I bought VC++ 6.0 for $100 and it came with Visual J++ attached to it, with the MSDN library included in both packages.

At the same time I bought a $40 "Starter Game Programming" kit and it came with a 3D engine (Genesis 3D (http://www.genesis3d.com/)) and a paperback book - but it also came with the Introductory version of VC++ 6.0 and 4 e-books on how to program with VC++ 6.

I guess those were the days in 1999, GOOD TIMES....................

Shadow
12-07-2002, 04:38 PM
> I bought a $40 "Starter Game Programming"
I have that Software Devloment Kit, it's nice.
Included a free 3d game with source code too..

tim545666
12-07-2002, 10:20 PM
>>Also, keep in mind that you need XP
XP Professional, I think. I'm pretty sure it doesn't work with the home edition.

face_master
12-08-2002, 02:00 AM
hrm...doesn't say anything bout XP Pro...

Shadow
12-08-2002, 02:17 AM
I have Visual Studio.NET pro, and have ran the standard edition successfully on XP Home Edition, but haven't tried the Professional Edition of Visual Studio.NET on Home Edition XP yet. I just haven't got around to it...have the cd set.