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bob20
11-27-2002, 11:39 PM
I was having an interesting conversation the other day about the end of the world, and how it would come about. I think that we will, with some device or another, destroy the Earth and us in an instant. Whether on purpose or by accident we will be destroyed.

We will grow to such an extent that in the end it will be our down fall, destruction.
-Chris Fairchild
Well that's what I think. How about everyone else, what do you think?

face_master
11-27-2002, 11:41 PM
Yes. It will defininetely be as a result of war. Nuke's arnt fun when the other team can fight back :)

webturtle0
11-27-2002, 11:46 PM
I agree completely. Humans are too incompetant. we've screwed up too much already. I don't think it will be too much longer.

abrege
11-27-2002, 11:53 PM
Look at where we are now from 500 years ago. Eventually our technology and arrogance will destroy the world itself, but don't worry, you'll die before you see it :rolleyes:

bob20
11-27-2002, 11:57 PM
but don't worry, you'll die before you see it
Thanks, that makes me feel so much better.

Brian
11-28-2002, 02:01 AM
I think the human survival instinct is too strong for us to all kill each other, and even if most of the planet is completely nuked, at least a handfull of paranoid people will survive in the bomb shelters they built in the sixties. In my opinion, humans are like a disease that can never be eradicated completely.

Scourfish
11-28-2002, 02:03 AM
The earth will be destroyed in order to build an intergalactic bypass.



42!

mogrika
11-28-2002, 11:55 AM
war will unlikely kill us all for a long time.

when the magnetic pole's flip most of the planet will be dead, so it'll take some time to nuke everyone.

hurrah.

salvelinus
11-28-2002, 12:40 PM
I vote for a nearby massive star going supernova, creating a black hole and irradiating the planet with lethal doses of X and gamma rays. See this months issue of Scientific American.
Or we do it to ourselves with bio weapons.

Cgawd
11-28-2002, 03:09 PM
i think well all be able to program ourselves a survival plan, when WWIII comes im taking the next flight into space.

Magos
11-28-2002, 03:52 PM
Why bother? From the day we're born, we're doomed to die sooner or later...

(Hope I didn't sound too pessimistic :D)

abrege
11-28-2002, 05:05 PM
Dammit, Magos, You've made us all depressed :(

mithrandir
11-28-2002, 06:03 PM
Every great civilisation has fallen...why should ours be the exception?

lightatdawn
11-28-2002, 06:39 PM
>>Every great civilisation has fallen...why should ours be the exception?

Because we're not a great civilisation? ;)

>>Why bother? From the day we're born, we're doomed to die sooner or later...

Atta boy. Thats the spirit. But to quote Cake:

As soon as you're born you start dying
So, you might as well
have a good time

Which seems like good advice from the sound of mind... until the next lines...

oh no
sheep go to heaven
goats go to hell

:p Maybe we shouldn't base any deep life altering philosophies around this guys verses after all...

>> I think the human survival instinct is too strong for us to all kill each other

Nah. Just put everyone together and say x is better than y and everyone will rip everybody elses throats out... Well it works here anyhow...

Hammer
11-28-2002, 06:46 PM
>>Just put everyone together and say x is better than y
I much prefer y. You have a problem with that??? :D

Personally I think a man made explosion will end the world.

lightatdawn
11-28-2002, 07:03 PM
>>I much prefer y. You have a problem with that???

Yes I do. Which is why its a damn good thing that:

a) I dont know where you live
b) I dont own tactical nuclear weapons
c) My supper will be ready soon

Hammer
11-28-2002, 07:30 PM
>>b) I dont own tactical nuclear weapons
Maybe that's how the world will end then. Two cprog.com residents having an international argument about two letters of the alphabet. y is still way better!

>>c) My supper will be ready soon
And maybe man's stomach will be his saviour.

OK, slight change of theme, when do you think it will end?

Eibro
11-28-2002, 09:40 PM
I don't think mankind will die off so easily, however I do think the earth will become uninhabitable for some reason or another in a couple hundred years.

lightatdawn
11-28-2002, 09:45 PM
>>OK, slight change of theme, when do you think it will end?

Oh, yeah. This thread had a topic... Not a particularly interesting one though really. Its all fairly baseless conjecture [at this point in time]. Its very hard to see an end to anything until you're quite close to it. *looks around* Yup, no iceberg. ;)

Cgawd
11-29-2002, 09:49 AM
i think itll be sometime within the next 200 years, just think about it thats 25-50 different presidents, one of them will defianately have a happy trigger finger on those nukes.

-Xp-
11-29-2002, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Scourfish
The earth will be destroyed in order to build an intergalactic bypass.



42!

lol yes, 42 (what sort of meaning of life is that!?)

Cgawd
11-29-2002, 10:26 AM
No I DIDN'T steal my name from Misro$ofts OS, it's pure coincidence.

what does XP stand for then? just a lil nick composed of two letters, or does it have some deep inner meaning?

Clyde
11-29-2002, 10:47 AM
Ok ill add my ramblings on the subject:

Viruses scare me. Really scare me. I'm not worried about countries going to war and blowing each other up, although i wouldnt say it was impossible. I'm more worried about some nut producing a doomsday virus that wipes the human race.

Human viruses that have been around a long time are not a threat, because the virus is better off not killing us. Funny eh? Many viruses 'can' easily evade the immune system but 'deliberately' dont so that they don't kill us. The problem viruses are those that jump the species gap: The flu that killed more soldiers than bullets in WW1 is an example as is HIV, Ebola, etc. They are the real nasties, because they evolved to 'not kill' their particular hosts, HIV was the SIV virus in monkeys, the 1918 flu jumped from another mammal i forget which one. So when they get to us our immune system hasnt got a clue and we promptly get into trouble.

Now whilst the threat from natural viruses that jump the species barrier is worrying (and a whole load of chickens were slaughtered in Honk Kong because they thought they might have a form of flu that might be transferable to humans), the real scare factor is the possibility of genetically engineered super viruses, believe it or not they have already made an HIV/ebola/Influenza (i think its got influenza - might be something else) hybrid virus for the purposes of gene vectors in medical gene therapy (you need a good way to insert genes into cells so you use a cut down virus (there are other ways too), problem is the immune system comes along and chomps the virus, so they built themselves a super virus - still cut down mind you ie. it has the nasty bits removed).

But what if our doomsday nut decides he wants to end the world, well he decides to build himself an uber virus, perhaps he looks at the gene therapy research and decides to activate some of the deactivated genes/insert new viral genes, or maybe he starts with a base from HIV/ebola/Influenza and adds genes from the others.

Certain viruses already have >90% mortality rates, what happens when you combine that mortality rate with a symptomless highly infectious period of 7 days?

BAM armagheddon. Well not entirely, but pretty much a reset of human civilisation.

Of course its not all doom and gloom mind you, medical science is progessing at a rate of knots, and i suspect (or hope) that by the time that any old nut can build himself an uber virus, we might have realistic uber virus treatments.

jawwadalam
11-29-2002, 11:11 AM
I dont think.. Human built weapons are these much strong that they can end the Whole world . :D

Zewu
11-29-2002, 02:01 PM
We will start colonizing other orbits. Human today will have disappeared sooner or later, but other species, which in some way have evolved from us, will live on.

Maybe technical creatures will get rid of humans, but we will be the ones having granted them life.

Human today is in any way a seed of intelligent life, I believe.

I don't know whether the universe has a beginning or an end.

minesweeper
11-29-2002, 02:20 PM
I predict that I shall die within the next 100 years.

adamviper
12-02-2002, 07:47 AM
i feel that it will be a race between the sun exploding or biological & ecological problems and no i am not a flagburning hippie

Sentaku senshi
12-02-2002, 01:20 PM
It's a toss up between Revelation's and Man himself, through Nukes, a geneticly enhanced super virus, or something along those lines.

I'm sure that by the time the sun expands Space Travel would let us escape.

Aran
12-02-2002, 05:01 PM
a friend of mine made some very interesting parallells (that's not the right spelling) between the Roman Empire before its fall, and the United States currently.

It is my personaly belief that america is too stupid to collapse.

dP munky
12-02-2002, 06:02 PM
it doesnt really matter to me, as long as the giant fireball that consumes us all doesnt hurt too much. :)