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Fountain
11-19-2002, 02:53 AM
Bear in mind I do like USA!! Just thought I would share this humorous piccy!:D

face_master
11-19-2002, 03:01 AM
Lol, thats funny. Just a joke, I hope...

Fountain
11-19-2002, 03:14 AM
Well, I think its a joke. I got sent the piccy. So I am unsure.

I bet there are Americans who think like that. With a population of a errr a lot, there is bound to be.:)

Then again there are people who think England still rules the world! It was a hefty empire mind you!

face_master
11-19-2002, 03:25 AM
>> Then again there are people who think England still rules the world! It was a hefty empire mind you <<

Keyword being was!!

OneStiffRod
11-19-2002, 03:47 AM
Yep, as an american I can say that we generally don't think of anything outside of our country as being important. That map is dead accurate.

As americans a good portion of us feel that we pull more than our fair share of weight around the globe and all of these other countries who like to criticize the US don't even come close to doing the things we do for others so to hell with them.

awdg
11-19-2002, 04:44 AM
"pull more than our fair share of weight around the globe"

The problem is in the definition of that. There are those who would call your "pulling your weight", "throwing your weight around".

correlcj
11-19-2002, 05:45 AM
Funny! Very humorous indeed!!!
:D

tgm
11-19-2002, 07:45 AM
I don't think most Americans believe in Dragons.

Sentaku senshi
11-19-2002, 09:16 AM
Um, this is better.

OneStiffRod
11-19-2002, 11:56 AM
We need to add more RED dots throughout South America and especially Panama, remember we invaded there in 1988.

>>>The problem is in the definition of that. There are those who would call your "pulling your weight", "throwing your weight around".

Why shouldn't we throw our weight around, let's add some more dots to the map of every country who recieves more than a billion dollars in aid from the USA every year - There are tons of countries around the world who couldn't exist without the USA footin there bill.

The UN wouldn't exist without the US, NATO would have no bite without the US, Saddam would own Kuwait w/o the US, the Taliban would still rule Afghanistan, China would invade Taiwan, North Korea would've invaded So. Korea, the Soviet Union would still be menacing the world w/o the US, IRAN would own the Persian gulf w/o the US.

That's just a small list - NO other country on earth gives more than the US.


Let us attack IRAQ you european pussies... who do you think has and is footin the bill to keep saddam in line with the NO fly zones and military power in that region. Also, when we are done with IRAQ we will attack IRAN and then North Korea - that's just a heads up for all y'all - we just getting started.

lightatdawn
11-19-2002, 12:02 PM
Sweet. I like it when hot headed idiots come in and ruin a good laugh. Take a pill OneStiffRod, and do us all a favour and keep it to yourself.

>> Lol, thats funny. Just a joke, I hope...

No. Its a secret pentagon strategy map.

OneStiffRod
11-19-2002, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by lightatdawn
Take a pill OneStiffRod, and do us all a favour and keep it to yourself.


Go speak FRENCH... comeback when your country speaks one language.

kermi3
11-19-2002, 12:19 PM
Don't flame, especially a mod.

You're forgetting one thing on that map, Canada isn't Moose, it's United States II, or Jr, or girlfriend, or some such like that, shares best friend with England, cept Canda is smart can keeps its mouth shut about stuff.

napkin111
11-19-2002, 12:21 PM
Funny, not exactly the way I view the world, but humorous none-the-less.

Cool off guys...

//napKIN

lightatdawn
11-19-2002, 12:49 PM
>>Canada isn't Moose, it's United States II, or Jr, or girlfriend

I always thought we were 'Beer At A Younger Age'.

>>Go speak FRENCH... comeback when your country speaks one language.

... *laughs* ... What? ... Is that supposed to be:
a) Offensive
b) Relevant
c) Intelligent
d) None of the above <----- *hint hint*

>>Canda is smart can keeps its mouth shut about stuff.

Yes, I'm aware that there are a lot of A's in "Canada" (eh), but you cant just leave letters out of words simply because you feel you've put in enough of them... eh? ;)


Funny, not exactly the way I view the world, but humorous none-the-less.

Cool off guys...

Ya. What he said.

kermi3
11-19-2002, 01:01 PM
We've already been over this several times L@D, I CAN'T SPELL OR TYPE!. You've seen my rough drafts for announcements and such lol. Moreover i'll spell Canda however teh heck I want and you can figure it out hmmmph!

golfinguy4
11-19-2002, 02:04 PM
Ist' ko Ekrmi. We lal frogive oyu.


:D (Don't worry, you couldn't possibly be worse than Klinerr)

Sang-drax
11-19-2002, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by OneStiffRod

Saddam would own Kuwait w/o the US, the Taliban would still rule Afghanistan.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't USA install/support the Talibans in the first place, to help Afghanistan in the war against the Soviet Union?

I also imagine that USA helped Saddam Hussein in the war versus Iran.

BMJ
11-19-2002, 02:19 PM
I don't know if anyone cares about it anymore, but I thought the pic was funny... :)

Sang-drax
11-19-2002, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by BMJ
I don't know if anyone cares about it anymore, but I thought the pic was funny...
The best humour is the one closest to the truth. :D

BMJ
11-19-2002, 02:29 PM
then I guess it's not so funny after all.

lightatdawn
11-19-2002, 02:31 PM
>>Ist' ko Ekrmi. We lal frogive oyu.

LMAO

>>(Don't worry, you couldn't possibly be worse than Klinerr)

*sings* Always look on the bright side, of life!

>>We've already been over this several times L@D, I CAN'T SPELL OR TYPE!.

I'll go over this again too then: I am obnoxious and will continue to mercilessly taunt until you go insane. I do this merely out of boredom and a rather sick sense of humour. Its especially enjoyable as I make my own array of typos to which I am usually oblivious. :) Enjoy.


>>Moreover i'll spell Canda however teh heck I want

teh.

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.
.

:p I crack myself up.

salvelinus
11-19-2002, 02:32 PM
*** SATIRE ALERT *** SATIRE ALERT *** (for humor impaired)
Nah, we know about the world in the US. If we want to learn about Asia, we go to California. Hispanic countries, Texas. Cubans, Miami. To learn about Germans, just visit Yellowstone. For Canadians, watch Red Green. Haitians, south Florida. Australia, watch Crocodile Dundee & that croc hunting guy. The English come over here and tell us all we want to know and more (Paul Burrell's on tv more than Bush). The French, well, frankly, who really cares, even the rest of Europe. The "*ias's" - Croatia, Slovenia, Albania, Yugoslavia, etc - we get from that doc on ER. Admittedly Africa we'd just as soon forget, but the rest of the world seems to be on the same track there. Sweden, we know you got babes, they're in our beer commercials. Yada yada yada...
*** SATIRE ALERT CANCELLED *** SATIRE ALERT CANCELLED ***

Maybe OSR's just trolling, taking the King's place. Either way, that's the view many outside the US feel the US has. It ain't necessarily so. Some people feel that way, and they're mighty vocal, but it's not everyone or most. All countries have those types of people, the US's just bigger so they stand out. Many in the US do feel we get criticized no matter what we do, though. If more countries acknowledged what the US does/has done right, more people here would accept criticisms of what it does/has done wrong.

Sentaku senshi
11-19-2002, 02:51 PM
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't USA install/support the Talibans in the first place, to help Afghanistan in the war against the Soviet Union? <
Sort of the Taliban actuly came to power after we left and and at the time they were not the horrible regime that you are thinking them as.


>I also imagine that USA helped Saddam Hussein in the war versus Iran.<

Yes, for the same reson we helped kuwait. He was atacked.

Sang-drax
11-19-2002, 03:03 PM
>>>>I also imagine that USA helped Saddam Hussein in the war versus Iran.

>>Yes, for the same reson we helped kuwait. He was atacked.

So you should help any country that gets attacked?
But soon you will be attacking Iran... that is quite a quandary, is it not?

golfinguy4
11-19-2002, 04:47 PM
What? That map isn't true?



Made sure to include sarcasm tags as some people are quite thick-headed.

OneStiffRod
11-19-2002, 08:27 PM
>>So you should help any country that gets attacked?
But soon you will be attacking Iran... that is quite a quandary, is it not?

Nope. Cause we HATE IRAN for holding our dudes hostage.:D Technically, Saddam attacked IRAN but we loved that b/c we HATE IRAN:cool:

And Senshi is right, the Taliban evolved from the mujahadeen who were more like the Norther Alliance was. The only reason we got involved was for PAYBACK for Vietnam - yeah baby, payback is a pain*.

Oh and Canada is simply the USA's largest state. And the answer to lightatdawn was e) Insulting.

Who do you think should be our (the USA's) 52nd state - Canada is 51st - should it be Afghanistan or IRAQ?


Imperialism is the BOMB!!!

*Editted out by Kermi3 ***ing it out is the same as saying it.

Commander
11-19-2002, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by OneStiffRod
Who do you think should be our (the USA's) 52nd state - Canada is 51st - should it be Afghanistan or IRAQ?See, that's anaricans' biggest misconseption, some of you guys think that the other countries in the world are just another state.. i got 2 qs 4 ya, were u guys brainwashed to believe this? and why do u guys think that everybody loves you????

lightatdawn
11-19-2002, 09:59 PM
Now, I know you're looking for a reaction but... I checked your profile for an age but all it sais is " N/A". You're really young though, right? Tell me you're really young. That might make it sort of okay. I expect childish remarks from children, but I expect better as they get older. Unfortunatly I'm often let down.

This was the first suspect childish remark: "Go speak FRENCH... comeback when your country speaks one language."
Heres another: "And the answer to lightatdawn was e) Insulting."
Oop. Heres a third one: "The only reason we got involved was for PAYBACK for Vietnam"

I'm glad you have your opinions on what your government is up to. I don't want to have this thread turn to U.S. bashing, but with people like you spouting off, it makes your country look really bad.

I would like to express right now that I dont hate your country, or most of the people that live in it. I just dont like idiots; And idiots, like cockroaches and other pests, will live anywhere.

Now do yourself a favour and stop blowing around hot air while theres still a sliver of a chance somebody thinks you're not ignorant.

dP munky
11-19-2002, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Commander
See, that's anaricans' biggest misconseption, some of you guys think that the other countries in the world are just another state.. i got 2 qs 4 ya, were u guys brainwashed to believe this? and why do u guys think that everybody loves you????

i think were just ignorant

OneStiffRod
11-19-2002, 11:32 PM
Prepare to be let down bro, 23yo, older and wiser than you. Maybe I should include sarcasm tags around my remarks so ignorants can understand.

>>and why do u guys think that everybody loves you????
You mean that alot of ppl don't like americans.

>>>Oop. Heres a third one: "The only reason we got involved was for PAYBACK for Vietnam"

Yeah, don't you read your history - I guess not - you're probably too young but we supported the mujahadeen for one simple reason - PAYBACK for Vietnam - we wanted soviet blood for the blood we spilled in vietnam.
That clears it up.

How can I make my country look bad when I tell the truth - that map is funny but it would be funnier - at least for americans - if we added some DOTS for those countries that need to be bombed. Include the French-side of CANADA in that list.

TechWins
11-20-2002, 12:00 AM
Mine is more like America rules and the rest of you are insignificant.;)

Nah, I think that's funny, but in a general sense doesn't everybody sort of think like that? Like if you're from England you think England is the greatest empire ever, American is just a bunch of dumb babbling idiots who have a red-neck for a President, Australia as a really large prison area, France as a piece of crap, Canada as apart of England, and the rest of the world as something else. Eh, I think that's a pretty good comparison.:D

dP munky
11-20-2002, 12:05 AM
here here!

Fountain
11-20-2002, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by TechWins
Mine is more like America rules and the rest of you are insignificant.;)

Nah, I think that's funny, but in a general sense doesn't everybody sort of think like that? Like if you're from England you think England is the greatest empire ever, American is just a bunch of dumb babbling idiots who have a red-neck for a President, Australia as a really large prison area, France as a piece of crap, Canada as apart of England, and the rest of the world as something else. Eh, I think that's a pretty good comparison.:D

I think after reading the replies to my nice piccy, that most of the above could well be true. And we WERE the greatest empire ever.

Oh and you forgot to mention what we feel about Germany



Originally posted by BMJ
then I guess it's not so funny after all.

Yes you were right the first time BMJ. It IS a funny piccy, and should be treated as such.

Not blah blah Iraq/Canada/Canda or what ever.

vasanth
11-20-2002, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by OneStiffRod
We need to add more RED dots throughout South America and especially Panama, remember we invaded there in 1988.

>>>The problem is in the definition of that. There are those who would call your "pulling your weight", "throwing your weight around".

Why shouldn't we throw our weight around, let's add some more dots to the map of every country who recieves more than a billion dollars in aid from the USA every year - There are tons of countries around the world who couldn't exist without the USA footin there bill.

The UN wouldn't exist without the US, NATO would have no bite without the US, Saddam would own Kuwait w/o the US, the Taliban would still rule Afghanistan, China would invade Taiwan, North Korea would've invaded So. Korea, the Soviet Union would still be menacing the world w/o the US, IRAN would own the Persian gulf w/o the US.

That's just a small list - NO other country on earth gives more than the US.


Let us attack IRAQ you european pussies... who do you think has and is footin the bill to keep saddam in line with the NO fly zones and military power in that region. Also, when we are done with IRAQ we will attack IRAN and then North Korea - that's just a heads up for all y'all - we just getting started.

what the hell do you mean... All these problems would not be there if thee was no America... you created the taliban, you created osama, you supplied Sadam with technologies during Sr.Bush period. and you poured billions into the UN to controll other super powers.. and you spent billions in aid to safegaurd your economic interest... go figure out how the word bannana republic came... so wihtout US i would say the world would have been a better place to live in...

The Junglist
11-20-2002, 04:16 AM
That picture couldn't be any more TRUE, imo.

novacain
11-20-2002, 04:30 AM
OneStiffRod

"it better to remain silent and seem a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."


I'm not too young to remember Vietnam.

vasanth:: you tell 'em!

minesweeper
11-20-2002, 05:49 AM
Yeah, don't you read your history - I guess not - you're probably too young but we supported the mujahadeen for one simple reason - PAYBACK for Vietnam - we wanted soviet blood for the blood we spilled in vietnam.
That clears it up.


You jump into someone else's war that you think will be a pushover.
Then you find out it's not a pushover and end up taking heavy losses.
Then you want revenge on those that caused your losses?!

What a bizarre sense of logic and reason.

vasanth
11-20-2002, 09:04 AM
and after all this.. the Americans jump saying that they saved the world.. and saved other people... BIg joke......
The killing of innocent people in Iraq by Sadam regime to test chemical weapons took place during the period of Sr.Bush.. But then America was a close friend of his and never uttered a word... But now after ages they say what happened then was inhuman.... and that no one in the world can tolerate killing of innocent people..


Well what happend then... when they were close allies.. does that mean that if you are a friend of the US you can do anything.. but if you are an enemy of the US , what ever you do is wrong...

The overall purpose of the US behind seeking regime change in many conutries since the 60's is to make the countries concerned conform to its vision of international economic and political order - to liberalize and globalize and in the process to give up options of macro economic policy making by other countries. so as to become irrevocbly dependent on the US to permit the free play of American multinational corporations in their economies, and in particular provide them free access to their market and raw material supply.

Regimes such as those of Slobodan Milosevic of Yogoslavia and Mr. Hussein, which constitute a massive aberration from the system are simply crushed.. others are forced to fall in line, otherwise threats such as sanctions and cut in aid is said...

FillYourBrain
11-20-2002, 09:23 AM
I'm starting to believe that a "no politics" rule should be implemented. We have people from around the world on this board and of course there are different beliefs running rampant. I'm proud to be an American and I think most others feel the same about their own nation/religion/racial group. Doesn't matter, for the harmony of this board, I think topics like this are damaging.

I could be wrong.

vasanth
11-20-2002, 09:31 AM
well i agree with you... but some people think that their country, religion, faith etc are superior to others.. that is wrong.. first people have to learn to respect others..

what does he mean by saying that people in other countries live by the aid given by the US without knowing the facts right..

napkin111
11-20-2002, 09:58 AM
I don't want Americans to be viewed as ignorant hot-heads who think they are superior, so...I live in the USA and have a sense of patriotism and national pride, but I don't think that we are "superior" to anyone because of size, wealth, etc. I don't consider one country or religion better or worse just because one person did something. Hitler headed the Hallocaust but that doesn't make everybody from Germany a bad person. The Taliban crashed plains into the WTC and the Pentagon, but that doesn't make all people from Afghanistan bad people. You can't judge a person based on the group they are part of (I'm not saying that you have...).

//napKIN

Sentaku senshi
11-20-2002, 10:10 AM
>what the hell do you mean... All these problems would not be there if thee was no America... you created the taliban, you created osama, you supplied Sadam with technologies during Sr.Bush period. and you poured billions into the UN to controll other super powers.. and you spent billions in aid to safegaurd your economic interest... go figure out how the word bannana republic came... so wihtout US i would say the world would have been a better place to live in...<

So it would have beter to let the Soviets rule the middle east?

salvelinus
11-20-2002, 11:42 AM
This was supposed to be a humorous thread. There are plenty of threads in the archives on why the US is great/evil/, etc. Just go re-read them, and send yourself an e-mail when you disagree. Ay yi yi, get a sense of humor, folks.
Maybe the webmaster should make a politics/US/Pakistan v. India/evolution/etc board, so people can argue pointlessly to their hearts content. Call it the argument board. Although it is fun to watch Clyde surface on religion v. science threads.
Not that I haven't been guilty myself. But this thread was just a joke, for pete's sake

Sebastiani
11-20-2002, 12:01 PM
America suffers from the vunerability of "idealistic" brainwashing, which is certainly due to the nature of our history. We are taught that ours is the only "free" country, and thus superior to all others to some degree. There are two conflicting side-affects, one good, one bad. On the one hand, we ingrain upon eachother this god-given freedom, and because of this, america is a very free nation. On the other hand, we are easily convinced by politicians who wish to crush any offensive nation, *whatever* the true reason may be, especially if they seem to suppress civil-rights. Admitedly, this is an over-simplification (how can that be avoided?!). The point is, though, due to causation, America is now the world super-power that England once was, and with this, imperialism and the urge to conquer is inevitable (wouldn't this hold true for any nation with such power?).

lightatdawn
11-20-2002, 12:50 PM
Thanks napkin111. Everyone needs to take a bite of what you're eating. Dont worry, I dont judge your whole country by people like lil' Stiffy there. Everyone needs to just chill out about where they're from and why its better. We all have our opinions and they're all biased so whats the point in flaming over it?

And its just a joke thread! Its not cool that it fell to where its at now.

>>so people can argue pointlessly to their hearts content. Call it the argument board.

Ooh. This is good. Very good. :cool: I wonder...

napkin111
11-20-2002, 02:14 PM
erm...right now I'm in programming class chewing on 2 1/2 hour old gum...

dP munky
11-20-2002, 02:34 PM
cant we all just get along?

Sayeh
11-20-2002, 04:02 PM
LOL-- very good, but it has one small flaw--

It's all America. The rest of the world just hasn't clued to that yet-- With that in mind, allow me to describe my brief Foreign Policy, should I ever be elected:

1) If you so much as harm or kill even a single American Citizen, we will wipe out your Capital City. If you continue we will continue wiping out cities until there are none of you left.

2) If we must cause an American Soldier to plant a foot on your soil-- we aren't coming to help you or fight you. We're coming to conquer you. You will become part of the US. You don't have to like it.

Very straightforward and effective foreign policy. Non aggressive. The other side must make the first move. God help them if they do.

As for American Immigration Policy, it's Simple as well--

1) You will learn the English language.

2) You will not be allowed to bring your crappy culture into this country. No Little China, no Little Cuba. If you want to replicate the hellhole you ran from again, then you can just stay in your mess where you live.

3) You will be allowed to practice you religion freely, so long as it does not include terrorist acts, or acts of violence against anyone.

4) You will not be allowed to ***** about how you should be compensated because 100 years ago, your great-great-great-so-and-so was a slave. You are reminded that it was the black man who introduced slavery to the English. So if you seek restitution at all, talk to your brothers.

As for Domestic Policy

1) You are an American-- sovereign to all other ethnicities-- live well, be happy. The world is your Oyster, go take what you will. Your government's behind you.

---

dP munky
11-20-2002, 04:43 PM
the saga continues...