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sean
10-29-2002, 09:34 PM
Firstly, this question is mainly directed at the programmers still in High School - since we're all probably the kids that, had this been 1955, would be the oens walking around with slide rules in our pockets.

Don't you hate being called an overachiever? I'd like to know that it's not just me who hates the people who use this phrase, because the word is self-contradictory if you think about it...

ggs
10-29-2002, 09:35 PM
lol, u r too hard wurking. b lazy

lazy == programmer
ur not lazy enuff
ur not eleet

edit: whoa, the moderators have retracted their long time ago decision to lock down image posting. hooray, time for a reign of terror

Eibro
10-29-2002, 09:41 PM
No one has ever called me an overachiever. I get straight 80's without picking up a pencil outside school. I pass in a lot of assignments late, and other I simply don't pass in. My test average is well above 80 though, so it evens it out.

Marks don't matter much to me, I see people who couldn't claw their way out of a paper bag making 95's, so the system is obviously flawed. I simply don't see how you can accuratly measure someones knowledge/intelligence/ability with a single number.

sean
10-29-2002, 09:44 PM
Too hard working?

Eibro
10-29-2002, 09:46 PM
Huh? (Was that last post directed towards me?)

TechWins
10-29-2002, 10:03 PM
Couldn't agree more with you, Eibro. Then again it seems like I'm pretty similar to you when it comes to school.

Sean, no, I wouldn't be like that if the times were the 50s, 60s, 80s, present day, or any other day. I may program, but that doesn't mean my lifestyle or personality is that of stereotyped programmer.:)

Sebastiani
10-29-2002, 10:49 PM
Hmm, I never was accused of being an overachiever - more likely eccentric :D

I never turned in homework but did blazingly well on my tests, special projects, etc. I never thought much of school anyway, always preferring to study on my own.

Prelude
10-29-2002, 10:53 PM
I've been called several things, not the least of which being perfectionist, prima dona, pedantic, and *****y. I haven't been called an overachiever so far, not even when I was in high school. ;)

-Prelude

Cheeze-It
10-30-2002, 11:35 AM
Listen people! There's nothing "glamorous" or "cool" about being
a nerd! Nerd Pride has got to die! Pretty soon there're going to
be parades and other lame activities to celebrate the nerds of
this country. I won't stand for it!!!

Just because you program, that doesn't mean you need to be a
dork, too. Just look at -Ken-; he's so rad... lightatdawn, too.




had this been 1955, would be the oens walking around with slide rules in our pockets.

And shoved in lockers by the cool kids that smoke cigarettes and
wear leather jackets... You know, dangerous dudes like me...
Remember that! Remember that I'm dangerous!!!

Cheeze-It
10-30-2002, 11:42 AM
You see, my problem with nerdom comes from me being abused
by my nerd-father. He would lock me in the closet and force me
to read science books... I was never allowed to leave the house;
never allowed to go outside. I've never had a friend; my father
wouldn't allow it. He wanted me to grow up just like him: nerdy,
friendless, and lacking of all social-skills.

Everyday before I left for school he would examine my appearance.
If my pants didn't come up to up my chest, I got a whoopin' and
was forced to stand there while he pulled them up for me -- and
he was never gentle about it... I still have an odd aspect to my
walk -- 10 years later.

valar_king
10-30-2002, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by ethic
You see, my problem with nerdom comes from me being abused
by my nerd-father. He would lock me in the closet and force me
to read science books... I was never allowed to leave the house;
never allowed to go outside. I've never had a friend; my father
wouldn't allow it. He wanted me to grow up just like him: nerdy,
friendless, and lacking of all social-skills.

Everyday before I left for school he would examine my appearance.
If my pants didn't come up to up my chest, I got a whoopin' and
was forced to stand there while he pulled them up for me -- and
he was never gentle about it... I still have an odd aspect to my
walk -- 10 years later.

LoL

RoD
10-30-2002, 01:32 PM
>>Just because you program, that doesn't mean you need to be a
dork, too. Just look at -Ken-; he's so rad... lightatdawn, too.

I'm no dork, i race my four wheeler, i date a beautiful girl, i have a nice/fast car, i see movies, hell, if i didn't once ina while submit actual programming related stuff u guys would wonder why i'm even here :P

Eibro
10-30-2002, 01:48 PM
Yes, we're all nerds here... but just because you're a nerd, doesn't mean you're only a nerd.

There's nothing wrong with being a nerd, there's nothing wrong with being an overachiever... if that's what makes you happy-- do it. We all end up decomposing in the ground, or burned in a furnace... why waste your life worrying about meaningless labels? Do what's fun, do what makes you happy... because NOTHING you do will ever make a difference.

BMJ
10-30-2002, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Eibro
because NOTHING you do will ever make a difference.That's a pretty grim statement :rolleyes:

Eibro
10-30-2002, 02:02 PM
Grim... but true. Don't let it get you down :) Perhaps you and that... ... banana have a promising future.

Betazep
10-31-2002, 02:52 AM
>>>because NOTHING you do will ever make a difference.


You must not have a kid. The outlook changes fast.... believe me. Now everything I do makes a difference whereas I once pretty much believed the opposite. It is all a feeling or state of mind anyway.

Fountain
10-31-2002, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by BMJ
That's a pretty grim statement :rolleyes:




Of course it is grim...Any one thing you do could make a world wide difference....likeley? Well, maybe....

Try to have a vision-maybe a new bog roll or something-anything can make a difference to others.

Waldo2k2
10-31-2002, 07:05 AM
generally i think that term would be most prevalent in high school. Most kids (unless they turn out to be backwater trailor park bums) eventually realize that that "overacheiving" is what gets those individuals the hot jobs, whether it be programming or sports or anything else. I also think the term nerd is overused, your only a nerd if your some skinny little kid with muscle atrophy staring at his computer screen for hours and hours on end with no contact to the outside world. I bet there's not a single one of them among us.

Eibro
10-31-2002, 09:52 AM
Something you do may make a difference in the short run, but after a million years or so? It all depends on how big your achievement was. But eventually the universe will be sucked back into a condensed ball of matter, and another big bang will occour.

The Dog
10-31-2002, 12:39 PM
IMO, there's no such thing as a "nerd". If someone is interested in nothing else but his/her work, then that's just the way they are.

If someone were interested in baseball, and all he/she does is play baseball the whole day, every day, they won't be seen as nerds, but rather someone who shows a lot of interest in baseball.

So why is it that if your interests lie in your work, then you are a "nerd"?

Cheeze-It
10-31-2002, 03:04 PM
>So why is it that if your interests lie in your work, then you are
>a "nerd"?

Because. Just because. Learn to accept that... It's the way of
things. You can't argue with the Universe.

>If someone were interested in baseball, and all he/she does is
>play baseball the whole day, every day, they won't be seen as
>nerds, but rather someone who shows a lot of interest in
>baseball.

No, they'd be seen as Jocks.

Face it, there are labels for everybody.

The Dog
10-31-2002, 03:10 PM
>> Face it, there are labels for everybody.

True.

golfinguy4
10-31-2002, 03:23 PM
Why do you even care? If you don't like something and it isn't important, ignore it. That's my philosophy.

sean
10-31-2002, 09:39 PM
Yeah well I date a pretty beautiful girl myself, but I never said nerds or dorks. I said overachievers - and that's who I was trying to get feedback from.

Sentaku senshi
11-01-2002, 10:05 AM
I was called an over achiver in english class today because I was rushing to finish my Vocab when It was not do to Monday