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kermi3
08-18-2001, 11:27 PM
Though I'm not normally one to just post new threads just for the sake of it I have a question that maybe the boards could address.....

What's with the attention span on these boards? Or lack of it! :confused:

It seems to me that a thread cannot seem to hold its origanall intent for more than 5 posts. For example the post asking about member status and titles that after just a few posts ended up talking about diffrent color fonts! Or the New Moderators thread which I've had to remind people constantly to keep about nominations but still is wondering off on its own!

Now the real issue here is why are peas green? Why not red? (oh whoops is my mind wondering in strange ways too? sorry...back to topic...)

Is this something that's inherint to this community? Or is it because coders have an insanly short attention span? Or is it simply the nature of message boards?

Please someone clue me in before this thread wonders off into a insane direction that has nothing to do with the origanal topic of this post.

-KEN-
08-18-2001, 11:31 PM
I'd say people in general have a short attention span when it comes to messageboards.

By the way, peas should be blue, as everyone knows. :p (and that's how threads begin going south...)

no-one
08-18-2001, 11:42 PM
well your both wrong and i can prove it...

go to the original message board and read the following post.

'Well Fried the What if... thread what next '

-KEN-
08-18-2001, 11:44 PM
read it? I Co-Created it! so there! :p

no-one
08-18-2001, 11:47 PM
govtcheez also had a part i must admit...

and CollegeGirl now as a large steak in it...

-KEN-
08-18-2001, 11:48 PM
We Just proved Kermi3's point fairly well, huh?

no-one
08-18-2001, 11:49 PM
dang... your right...we did.

mithrandir
08-19-2001, 12:41 AM
I was going to type a reply, but got distracted by something else.

Witch_King
08-19-2001, 03:25 AM
Moderators are not very important, infact they threaten the freedom of this board. Almost all of the posts that occur in the general discussions board are between people who know each other. There might be some rioting but never anything too serious. The truth is that there does not need to be any moderators except for the webmaster and perhaps one other mod. Someone who is here on a regular basis.

In my opinion this board is doomed to fail because it does not accomodate advanced programmers except for Salem, but he just answers 'C' questions. This is fine for 'C' programmers who are mostly students but it is not realistic for students who have to be trained in OOP languages.

Having a .NET board would give life to this place. It would be a board where one could understand a multitude of subjects and it would also represent the high level needs of OOP programmers: SOAP, XML, C#, ASP.NET, VB.NET, etc.

-KEN-
08-19-2001, 07:55 AM
Shut it, Dea...oh, look! Shiny objects!

Govtcheez
08-19-2001, 12:49 PM
I dunno - just seems that whenever people *do* make posts regarding the topic, they also throw in some snide remark that ticks someone else off (yay Microsoft!), and things progress from there. Also, what makes you think coders have short attention spans? Who else can you get to debug thousands of lines of... hey, a butterfly!

no-one
08-19-2001, 01:01 PM
hey what are you tr... ooooooooooooooo

rick barclay
08-19-2001, 01:05 PM
>Is this something that's inherint to this community? Or is it because coders have an insanly short attention span? Or is it simply the nature of message boards? <

Neither. Nor. Right!

rick barclay

Flarelocke
08-19-2001, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Witch_King
Moderators are not very important, infact they threaten the freedom of this board.Hey, look, a Microsoft advocate talking about freedom :)


In my opinion this board is doomed to fail because it does not accomodate advanced programmers except for Salem, but he just answers 'C' questions. This is fine for 'C' programmers who are mostly students but it is not realistic for students who have to be trained in OOP languages.How do you propose that we "accomodate advanced programmers"?

doubleanti
08-19-2001, 02:05 PM
it really depends... some of us have nothing better to do than to surf all day and this board takes up too many hours of our daily lives... it depends more on circumstance, the people, and i'm sure you'd all agree that we can't make a generalization on it as we might do in the conventional sense...

kermi3
08-19-2001, 08:24 PM
I don't believe it! on the thread about attention span we stay reasonably on topic :confused: this is a strange palce these here boards.

no-one
08-19-2001, 09:00 PM
dang again... this is to much...

nvoigt
08-20-2001, 12:01 AM
Attention span:
Well, short attention spans are obvious when the topic
of the thread is not too interesting and not too technical.
You will rarely see a C/C++ topic changing. And you will
rarely see a Win vs *nix, DirectX vs OpenGL or C vs C++
change, because these topics are hot. On the general
discussion board however, there are topics that are
used to chat and have some fun. And as every
conversation will change it's topic over time, these do,
too.



The truth is that there does not need to be any
moderators except for the webmaster and perhaps one
other mod. Someone who is here on a regular basis.


Theoretically you are right. In practice, you need
at least two moderators online 24/7 to read all new
posts. And that is impossible with only 2 people.
I think 5 to 10 are quite right to do the job.
What I really like is the new "Report this post" feature.
And I don't think we actually did much moderating
on the old board. Mainly maintenance, deleting double
posts, closing or deleting threads that were meant as
replies, that kind of stuff. Since we've got moderators,
the number of insulting/abusive posts clearly dropped.
Not neccessarily because of the moderators actions,
but because of their presence.

no-one
08-20-2001, 12:19 AM
excellent point(s). i agree totally.

> DirectX vs OpenGL <

you trying to say Direct-X is Better?:p

>Since we've got moderators,
the number of insulting/abusive posts clearly dropped.
Not neccessarily because of the moderators actions,
but because of their presence.<

ahh... i remember the old days...... "f" this and "f" that you "this" and you "that"...aaaaahhhhhhh......... those were the good old days... how many people left cause of all that garbage?

about the sig...
ill just call ya (nv).

Drewpee
08-20-2001, 09:50 AM
I have a theory about this whole..., what was I talking about?

Oh ya, attention span.
As programmers we have to keep track of many different things at the same time while coding. (Multithreaded applications, pointers, references, stopping memory leaks, etc) I think our brains have been trained to think in several different directions at once. Hence discussions going off on a tangent at any given time.
I personally don't mind too much, I'm just worried for my health. Has there been any long term tests conducted on the side effects of caffine induced tangential thought processes?

Oh yea, back to the main topic, peas should be orange, oranges should be red and called blues.

Hope I have helped

Unregistered
08-20-2001, 09:56 AM
Okay, I've seen the double post phenomena, but this is just weird...
Moderator, could you please remove one of the posts above for me.
Thanks

nvoigt
08-20-2001, 09:59 AM
Veni, vidi, already deleted it ...

:p

Cheeze-It
08-20-2001, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Drewpee

Oh yea, back to the main topic, peas should be orange, oranges should be red and called blues.

Do you ever wonder what fruit, from other planets, tastes
like? I mean, we all know about apples, oranges, *berries,
pineapples, peaches, pears and tomatos... But, what else
is out there? What tastes? What potential fruit-juices
await us in other solar-systems?

Woh, I just blew_my_mind...

Govtcheez
08-20-2001, 01:17 PM
*berriesJeez, you can tell we're dorks - * is a wildcard for anything, lol

Dean's commentWow, talk about short attention spans... not only is it unattached to the original intent of the thread, it's unattached to anything discussed in the thread!

doubleanti
08-20-2001, 01:23 PM
[steps back into the misdirected non-battlefield]

good point GovtCheez... funny though, i mean, *we* (not wildcards) all know that the * and ? are wildcards... (don't ever be confused when i type "?uestion" tho...)... but no one else on the planet would normally know what they were... well... so much for that...

i think our off topic offing is a good example for multiple indirection! what do you think! :p

Cheeze-It
08-20-2001, 01:46 PM
So, I'm assuming I'm the only one who wonders what
fruit from other planets tastes like...

Nobody wonders about the simple things in space...

This planet is becoming boring. I want to see something
else. But, at the pace NASA is going, I don't think I'll
live to see that day. I mean, we haven't even been to the
moon yet...

Come on NASA, the time for Warp-Speed is now. I don't
care how long fungi can live on a space shuttle orbiting
Earth. I don't care how many pull-ups John Glenn can do. I
want to see other planets. (And not Mars. Mars is so passe).


Eh, sorry for going Off-Topic, but it's just so
aggravating!!

Govtcheez
08-20-2001, 02:01 PM
What, do you expect them to just throw a buncha people in a spaceship, point it at Alpha Centauri, and press a button?

For one thing, we can't find a red button suitably big, yet.

For another, as we've discussed in here before, gas prices suck once you leave Earth.

doubleanti
08-20-2001, 04:42 PM
>Not neccessarily because of the moderators actions,
but because of their presence.

i agree...

and Govt... your posts thing is 255... which makes me think that if the posts were only held in one byte, you'd get kicked back down to junior member... don't press reply!!! :p

>(And not Mars. Mars is so passe).

gasp! that's it... that was the last straw... i've had enough of you morons picking on mars!!! *redirects mega cannon at earth* [read sig...]...

oh, and speaking of the prefix 'mega'... in ff8, where bauhamut has the megaflare, it's false advertising since the megaflare is *not* 1024^2 times as great as the spell flare... [reinstate sig...]... okay, well bye...

[insert std disclaimers...]

gamegod3001
08-20-2001, 07:00 PM
>gasp! that's it... that was the last straw... i've had enough of you morons picking on mars!!! *redirects mega cannon at earth* [read sig...]... <

Do to the earths inabilitay to defend it self, my home the sun will. I will use the soler beams if you fire at any were on the earth execpt the UK.

Thank You

>Do you ever wonder what fruit, from other planets, tastes like? I mean, we all know about apples, oranges, *berries, pineapples, peaches, pears and tomatos... But, what else is out there? What tastes? What potential fruit-juices await us in other solar-systems? <
>So, I'm assuming I'm the only one who wonders what
fruit from other planets tastes like... <

Well on the sun it is to hot to grow anything so all fruit comes from other planets. Mercury is mainly a pit stop and I have never eaten there. Venus fruit is pretty good but you have to go there to get it. Earth has the best fruit very sweet and tangy. Mars friut is so so and has realy nothing to offer. Juppiter's fruit is huge and I eat it when I am very hungry. (Sorry for lack of information)