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indigo0086
10-01-2002, 01:50 PM
I found a site that gives student discounts for Software http://www.journeyed.com (legal by the way) and I just want to know, which version of Visual Studio.net should I get, pro, or standard. I mean, I know pro is the top of the line, but shoud I spend all that money. I mean, what is the difference. I can still make C++ programs on standard right?

RoD
10-01-2002, 03:37 PM
i perfer my 6.0 standerd to all the above, imo.

indigo0086
10-01-2002, 05:05 PM
so basically if I am only studying C++ I would just need this?

BMJ
10-01-2002, 05:07 PM
If you're using Win98/ME then go with VC++6 because you can't use VC++.NET anyway :p

If you're using WinNT/2K/XP then go with VC++.NET because it's almost the same price as VC++6

You can decide for yourself about which edition of VC++ you want to get (they differ in the different version)

Visual C++.NET edition comparison (http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/howtobuy/choosing.asp)
Visual C++ 6 edition comparison (http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/productinfo/previous/vc6/rdr_compare.asp)

indigo0086
10-01-2002, 05:16 PM
yeh, the pro versions of .net and C++ are both $99

RoD
10-01-2002, 05:18 PM
I do plan to get .NET, but i am just starting out so i wouldn't benifit from its high end extras. >NET is what we use at school, and scince it automatiaclly inserts code for u i think it may tend to learn bad habits into a newbie....just imo tho

indigo0086
10-01-2002, 05:21 PM
well, there has to be a way to turn it off.

indigo0086
10-01-2002, 05:30 PM
gess I will go with visual C++ pro. .net has a lot of xml and web based stuff I don't need.

RoD
10-01-2002, 05:31 PM
i'm sure u can start an empty project like in standerd i jus don't care to find it : /

You could always backspace it also, but a newbie may not know these things or take time to learn, then should they start from a blank and have to declare main, they would be all screwed up.

BMJ
10-01-2002, 05:33 PM
There is nothing you can do in VC++6 that you can't in .NET

And those auto-complete things can be turned off (I like them)

RoD
10-01-2002, 05:36 PM
i was sure there was, i'm just saying a newb may not realize that and may suffer some learning due to it, but eh, its not me :P

I'm jus mad i haven't found my *cough*.net *cough* on kazza cause i can't figure out which CD of the .NET architect its on *cough*

damn lung.

indigo0086
10-01-2002, 05:39 PM
well, I guess I will buy .net. Maybe I will need it down the line. I jsut don't know what to buy. I see that chart but it is chinese as of now.

RoD
10-01-2002, 05:42 PM
if yer going microsoft go w/ their want - to - sell, .net

indigo0086
10-01-2002, 05:51 PM
done, I'm gonna send the order. You should check out that site, cheap stuff. You can just threaten a college student to buy him the software for you and you will pay him back. I doubt there are restrictions. But 99 priced down from $1000+, thats good.

RoD
10-01-2002, 06:01 PM
sounds like it

ZerOrDie
10-01-2002, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by indigo0086
done, I'm gonna send the order. You should check out that site, cheap stuff. You can just threaten a college student to buy him the software for you and you will pay him back. I doubt there are restrictions. But 99 priced down from $1000+, thats good.

sure but you cant release any applications for profit on that...
eg: you can make stuff but if you try to sell the stuff you make your breaking the law :p

indigo0086
10-01-2002, 07:55 PM
I'm proably not going to be selling anything anytime soon. I am a newbie. I started reading this book, but I stopped when I started this class. Probably start reading it during break.

Mister C
10-01-2002, 10:40 PM
I would use Visual Studio .net. -VB, C++ and C# together.


Mr. C.

RoD
10-02-2002, 04:02 AM
sure but you cant release any applications for profit on that...

i hadn't thought of that, but why?

indigo0086
10-02-2002, 08:29 AM
well, probably because you are getting such a discount, you have some restrictions. On the page, it didn't say anything about restrictions, but it said taht only students and teachers and education related jobs get the discount. If that is the case, doesn't matter because I won't be making applications I could sell for a while.

BMJ
10-02-2002, 10:53 AM
*busts out official VC++ license*

According to this; I am allowed to distribute any software I write, including software that uses any of the VC libraries/MFC/ATL/etc... as long as it is non-profit, and not included in any profitable software. I am not allowed to sell or lisence source code.

There are about fifty or so exceptions here, the thing is written in "lawyer language" so I'm not going to pick it apart.

Just don't sell anything and you'll be good :)

This is from the lisence for VC++.NET Standard BTW.

RoD
10-02-2002, 12:04 PM
so wtf r u supposed to do when u work for a company and they use VSC++?!

Govtcheez
10-02-2002, 12:06 PM
> so wtf r u supposed to do when u work for a company and they use VSC++?!

Use the pro or enterprise edition. Either that or develop in-house stuff that won't get sold.

RoD
10-02-2002, 12:08 PM
o...duh me lol. i still cant' find it on kazza grr

Govtcheez
10-02-2002, 12:09 PM
It's probably atyour local computer store. Wait - your grandfather can get you a $10K MS program, but he can't get you MSVC++?

BMJ
10-02-2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Ride -or- Die
o...duh me lol. i still cant' find it on kazza grr PIRACY SUCKS!

RoD
10-02-2002, 12:11 PM
nope, he only gets what he has direct access to, he programs on windows, not other software : /

RoD
10-02-2002, 12:12 PM
i'd have to say i was going to dload it to be considerd piracy, i jus said its not there, thats all

indigo0086
10-02-2002, 01:17 PM
I had the impression that when you work for a company you use their software to make products. Maybe I am wrong. And why am I looking at a flashing banner that says "STEROIDS, CLICK HERE TO BUY NOW"?

Govtcheez
10-02-2002, 01:22 PM
> And why am I looking at a flashing banner that says "STEROIDS, CLICK HERE TO BUY NOW"?

I noticed that one, too.

> he programs on windows, not other software : /

He programs on windows... with what? He's gotta use some kind of compiler...

RoD
10-02-2002, 02:03 PM
he does, don't get me wrong there, but his job is too program windows, the actual winodws(obviously only a small part of it on a team), and the actual software cds and such are installed by other people, he doesn't get access to the cds. I asked him the same question.