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Alphabird32
09-04-2002, 07:29 PM
Are they being fair to your community?

Do you like what they're doing?

Have you experienced anything with the U.S government? Share your story with the programmers of the cboard!!!!


:) :) :)

Aran
09-04-2002, 07:32 PM
looks like another "bash america" thread.

this has been overdone.

strange how you bring this up though, since i wrote a poem today that pretty much sums up my thoughts about hte US gov't these days:

I stand in the shadow of the american flag
i take a drag on my cigarrette
and curse at the minuette i'm reading...
it blindly throws me to-and-fro
from high to low without middle
and without much of a plot for one to enjoy.

An eagle lands on the window sill
and i will myself away from burning it with my cigarette.

black
09-04-2002, 07:35 PM
>>Are they being fair to your community?
>>Do you like what they're doing?

It is relative in these 2 point. They are fair for its native but may unfair for those abroad. ;)

no-one
09-04-2002, 07:37 PM
asking restraint, from comments?

this thread is asking for trouble by its mere wording.
Alphabird32 if this was not your intention, please reword it, we've had to many pointless flame threads like this might become.

Alphabird32
09-04-2002, 07:39 PM
Who just said that?

no-one

Ok....*walks away*


Lighten up man. I'm just making a norma topic to retrieve programmer's opinion(s) on our U.S government. Is that wrong?

Aran
09-04-2002, 07:40 PM
we have had many MANY threads about internal and external US policies and how we hate/love them, this thread is merely saying "Air your dirty laundry" and we need none of this.

Cruxus
09-04-2002, 07:49 PM
Fortunately, House minority leader Dick Gephardt (Democrat) is my representative, which is a good thing and a bad thing. The good thing is that his political power can bring all kinds of federal funds St. Louis's way. The bad thing is that this man has made promises to so many special interests in an attempt to increase his power, possibly aspiring for the presidency.

Some of the things the federal, state, and local governments have been doing I do not like, of course; but part of democracy is disagreement. One example is the Army Corps of Engineers plan to change the locks and dams of the Missouri River to make the river more liveable for a few endangered species of wildlife: This poses increased risk for flooding downstream in the St. Louis area and could have other potential economic consequences for the region with little benefit for the environment (it would be better if they could get the rivers cleaned up!).

ygfperson
09-04-2002, 09:26 PM
I like the US government. I'm excited to see the November elections and how they turn out. Will Republicans be swept into office on Bush's coattails? Will Democrats be swept into office for other reasons? Only time will tell... :D

Aran
09-04-2002, 09:30 PM
sounds more like a game than a serious series of elections that could determine the future of the united states (to me at least).

FillYourBrain
09-04-2002, 09:47 PM
Aran, democracy in the US is set up such that everyone can decide the fate of the nation. This includes idiots. Thus, it becomes a popularity contest at times. Some would argue that the greatest thing about it is that people can vote for who they want even if they are voting for some stupid reason (like the canditate playing the sax on MTV). I would like to believe that people vote on the issues and character of the individual but that's not the case most of the time. So yes, in some ways the process is a game. A very expensive game. But I prefer it to anything else I've seen any day.

icarusw
09-05-2002, 12:47 AM
The Bush administration is kinda boring. There's no-one you can really love to hate. Bush can even called honest for an American president. Ashcroft is just a guy with high blood pressure who gets very excitable, but I wouldnt want his job right now. He needs some pot. Rummy's a pretty cagey guy-appears to be clean for Washington. Cheney will probably die soon-all the liberal press has to do is shout "accounting irregularities!!!" and not let him explain that 89 mil unaccounted for out of a 17 billion operating budget isnt really all that bad, especially with the difficulties involved in construction schedules, but that's nothing new. Nobody else likes Powell, he must be getting lonely. Don't know anything about Condy, that's probably how its supposed to be. And the First Lady is about as classy a lady as possible, from all appearances.

It's a dull bunch. I long for Janet and Hilary.

It's funny how liberals are trying to rip Bush's throat out over the new security measures. They're not really anything new. Except now the FBI can take over the work from the FDA. They really need a break. Waco must have tired them out. And the new capabilities are standard in the IRS' book. But anyways, everyone loves Lincoln and Franky Roosevelt, but they contributed more to the destruction of the Constitution than anyone, except maybe Clinton. Oh well

novacain
09-05-2002, 01:19 AM
The only thing I have to say is

If you can vote then inform yourself of the issues and vote accordingly.

Think futher than the present and vote for the good of the planet not the good of your local area or personal agendas.

NANO
09-05-2002, 01:42 AM
All the care that we serrund our freedom with had kill our freedom!

We put a lot of things to protect our freedom, which ended up to make us have no freedom of nothing.... we should wait in that line for ever in the Airport ... and that is westting time....

If you watch the T.V. in the last few months you will find a lot of life Insurance advertisments, and I don't want to tell about the news which have nothing but bad news...

What can we say.... I don't know.... Logic has nothing to do with this. :mad: :p!!! Forgot about it, and back to work....

DISGUISED
09-05-2002, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by novacain
The only thing I have to say is

If you can vote then inform yourself of the issues and vote accordingly.

Think futher than the present and vote for the good of the planet not the good of your local area or personal agendas.

I agree. Unfortunately, a lot of Americans view voting as a big hassle. Long lines, missing work etc. They think that their one vote won't make a difference and then they complain about things like taxes being raised. Well where was your vote when you had your chance to be heard?

I once had a teacher tell me that if I was willing to give up my vote then I should be just as prepared to give up all my other freedoms/privileges as well. That always stuck with me.

Eibro
09-05-2002, 04:13 AM
I think; Actually I don't think. I don't concern myself with politics. I don't understand it, and I don't want to understand it. It'd probably just anger me more.

However; I have zero respect for Bush, I view him as a bumbling idiot... it just seems like he's someone elses mannikin.

mithrandir
09-05-2002, 04:25 AM
>>Think futher than the present and vote for the good of the planet not the good of your local area or personal agendas.<<

Yeah but when you have (like here in Australia) the two major parties with practically the same policies, and other parties are in complete shambles (like the ADP), you vote really makes f**k all difference to employ any kind of serious change. Too often you end up with the case of voting for the devil you know.

novacain
09-05-2002, 09:02 AM
Politics is about making the choice that annoys the least people (and only voters are people, even voters are much less important than campaign fund donors).

Most of the time the group of people who will be annoyed / disadvantaged equates to the people with the least cash (even if they are in a different country).

>>employ any kind of serious change

If the last US election had been held in Australia it would have been decided by about 25 votes.

The opposite is to be like Italy, with a multitude of small parties, where they have had a new government almost every year.


I think Pauline Hanson asked all the hard questions but had no viable answers.
She did have one good idea, to set preferences against sitting members. This scared the pollies so much they had her run out of politics. (Australia is a preferential system rather than a 'past the post' as is the US)

Clyde
09-05-2002, 10:34 AM
I worry that the US government underestimates the anti-US feeling in much of the non-Western world.

Govtcheez
09-05-2002, 10:35 AM
> I worry that the US government underestimates the anti-US feeling in much of the non-Western world.

I get the feeling that if we invade Iraq, they won't be able to ignore that much longer...

novacain
09-05-2002, 11:41 PM
Australia has been sending SAS troops and equipment to Kuwait for the last five months.

There is going to be a war against Iraq, it is just a matter of when.

The US will wait for more unilateral support as it needs the rest of us to pay for the war. (the last Gulf war the US paid less than 5% of the cost)

Unless there is a US election....

no-one
09-05-2002, 11:46 PM
>The US will wait for more unilateral support as it needs the rest of us to pay for the war.

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ygfperson
09-06-2002, 01:08 PM
It's funny how liberals are trying to rip Bush's throat out over the new security measures. They're not really anything new. Except now the FBI can take over the work from the FDA. They really need a break. Waco must have tired them out. And the new capabilities are standard in the IRS' book. But anyways, everyone loves Lincoln and Franky Roosevelt, but they contributed more to the destruction of the Constitution than anyone, except maybe Clinton. Oh well
where have you been for the last year? sure, roving wiretaps may make sense, but some other ideas, like secret trials, are damaging to the ideals we hold dear.

Scourfish
09-07-2002, 03:59 AM
Well, we all know that Bush hasn't made any decisions on any topic whatsoever (he just follows his advisors), so as long as he isn't actually doing the thinking; we might just be OK.