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Troll_King
09-01-2002, 02:22 AM
After not working out for about 4 or 5 months I started lifting again. I've been working out for close to 1 month and that is what I benched just now using Olympic free weights.

face_master
09-01-2002, 03:35 AM
And we care becuase ... ?

Troll_King
09-01-2002, 03:39 AM
...because if you don't watch out I'll squash your head between my bicepts.

Fountain
09-01-2002, 04:50 AM
hehe, thats funny

Troll_King
09-01-2002, 05:07 AM
His lack of faith was disturbing. The force is not kind to those who do not trust in the Lord God.

Fountain
09-01-2002, 05:13 AM
That is also amusing. His faith may have been increased now though.

jdinger
09-01-2002, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by Troll_King
...because if you don't watch out I'll squash your head between my bicepts.

Except that I have no fear of people who can't spell biceps.

-KEN-
09-01-2002, 08:06 AM
not to mention realizing that's weak weight, and furthermore that biceps and benching have little to do with eachother (besides biceps being a secondary muscle on the bench)

Troll_King
09-01-2002, 12:45 PM
That's weak weight is it? How much can you bench freeweight style? If I were to bench on a machine weightset than I would be pressing about 260 lbs. And using a narrow freeweight bar it would be about 240 lbs.

The true measurement is the one I gave, Olympic free weights. That's what they use when they measure world records.

If I can't spell biceps than that is a good thing you morons.

What 225 lbs is on an Olympic set is 2 45lb plates on both ends. It is a lot of weight. I don't have a spotter. I'll be going for 245lbs in about 4 or 5 weeks.

golfinguy4
09-01-2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Troll_King
It is a lot of weight. I don't have a spotter. I'll be going for 245lbs in about 4 or 5 weeks.

Which proves you are a bigger idiot than anyone here can imagine. Anyone who tries maxing out without a spotter is just setting themselves up for injury. BTW, I know a kid who benches around 400 dean, so I wouldn't be too excited. He can only lift with the gym's trainers b/c anyone else would be useless as a spotter. The kid is even in the world's strongest man competitions. He is under 20 as well, and is actually not a porker.

Troll_King
09-01-2002, 01:33 PM
I'm not taking any steroids, so lets be serious, 225lbs is a lot of weight. My ultimate goal might be 275 or 295 but I sort of doubt I'll reach that weight, even going up 20lbs is very difficult. I don't use a spotter but my smith bench as a catch half way up so if I can't press the weight all the way up I'll throw it onto the catch, or at least try. I don't go for maximum unless I'm confident that I can lift it at least for 2 reps.

golfinguy4
09-01-2002, 01:38 PM
Hate to break it to you dean, this kid isn't on roids either. Keep talking though, it's fun to watch you dig yourself deeper and deeper.

-KEN-
09-01-2002, 01:45 PM
Hehe, dean, you funny...

I've got a friend who's a year younger than me, and he can do 350 (last I checked...probably more now)

And yes, dean, I can do 225 :rolleyes:

Troll_King
09-01-2002, 02:08 PM
You're full of ****.

jdinger
09-01-2002, 02:47 PM
See, I know Dean from another board (not related to programming) and from that board I happen to know that Dean's idol is the immortal Hulk Hogan. And just like the Hulkster never used steroids, Dean has built his strength (granted 225 ain't much, but..) from clean living, taking his vitamins and saying his prayers.

I "PEDDIE" the fool...


or something like that..

Eibro
09-01-2002, 02:58 PM
I don't know what planet any of you are from, but 225 is quite a bit of weight. Mind you, it all depends on your physique... if you're a 300-pounder and you can only bench 225, there's a problem. If you're 140 and can bench 225, that's quite impressive.

It's easy to brag, it's a lot harder to actually do it. I go to the gym 6/7 days a week, just started taking whey protein (it works wonders for those who haven't tried it). I can only bench around 175, although I weigh 135.

For anyone who's interested, the world record is 715lbs.
Edit:: I should elaborate... I'd bet 90% of people cannot bench over 225 pounds. Of those who go to the gym? From what i've seen, I can't really make an accurate estimate.

Troll_King
09-01-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Eibro
I don't know what planet any of you are from, but 225 is quite a bit of weight. Mind you, it all depends on your physique... if you're a 300-pounder and you can only bench 225, there's a problem. If you're 140 and can bench 225, that's quite impressive.

It's easy to brag, it's a lot harder to actually do it. I go to the gym 6/7 days a week, just started taking whey protein (it works wonders for those who haven't tried it). I can only bench around 175, although I weigh 135.

For anyone who's interested, the world record is 715lbs.
Edit:: I should elaborate... I'd bet 90% of people cannot bench over 225 pounds. Of those who go to the gym? From what i've seen, I can't really make an accurate estimate.

This post is for the most part true, except that the more you weigh, the harder it becomes to bench press your body weight. There is no doubt abou this. I've never heard of an 800 pounder who could bench press his weight or otherwise more than his weight. I weigh about 230lbs. I'm in good shape compared to most people, but I'm not claiming to be a weightlifter. I think that I'll be benching 245 very soon and that might be the most I ever press. This is not the only weight exercise I do, but it is the most glamourous one.

TechWins
09-01-2002, 05:43 PM
Here's my opinino on it...

Dean, what you're lifting is pretty good but it's not incredibly impressive. I'll tell you why; you weigh 230 lbs. You are expected to be able to lift your on body weight, which you can not. However, since so few can actually lift 225 I'll give you credit that you are actually lifting quite a bit. Good but not great.

As for me I can lift about 160 lbs, and I weigh 145 lbs. Not spectacular but it is still above average for people my age (16).

For people my age here is what I would say people lift...

up to 75 lbs - 20%
up to 105lbs - 15%
up to 135lbs - 20%
up to 165lbs - 25%
up to 195lbs - 10%
over 195 lbs - 10%

Those numbers aren't perfectly accurate but for the most part that is the way it seems to be.

-KEN-
09-01-2002, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Eibro
I don't know what planet any of you are from, but 225 is quite a bit of weight. Mind you, it all depends on your physique... if you're a 300-pounder and you can only bench 225, there's a problem. If you're 140 and can bench 225, that's quite impressive.

It's easy to brag, it's a lot harder to actually do it. I go to the gym 6/7 days a week, just started taking whey protein (it works wonders for those who haven't tried it). I can only bench around 175, although I weigh 135.

For anyone who's interested, the world record is 715lbs.
Edit:: I should elaborate... I'd bet 90% of people cannot bench over 225 pounds. Of those who go to the gym? From what i've seen, I can't really make an accurate estimate.

I weigh about 160, and can bench 225...err...220. I'm rounding up. Anyhow, 220 was my max last I checked, but I'll bet it's gone down since I had to take a month off :-/

Eibro
09-01-2002, 06:25 PM
Oh, we're talking one rep max...
Normally when people talk about bench press they're talking 4-8 reps. At least that's how it is around here.

TechWins
09-01-2002, 07:00 PM
Well, Ken, I guess you fall in that upper 10%.

And, Eibro, I usually take it as anywhere from 1-3 reps when people talk about what they can bench.

-KEN-
09-01-2002, 10:11 PM
I've always thought max == 1 rep.

In the case of 3? Mucchhh lower :p

Troll_King
09-01-2002, 11:25 PM
Enough BS. I am picking up a digital camera in a few weeks. The camera will also be able to produce 30 second videos. The truth will be revealed in good time.

Shadow
09-01-2002, 11:33 PM
Make sure it has exceptional zoom features and quality.
We want to see the generous amounts of sweating oozing from your face.
Make sure you're zoomed in on your beat-red face too.

Troll_King
09-02-2002, 12:08 AM
I'll zoom in on the plates and the bench, it will be a 245lbs lift. Than I'll simply press it for a couple of repetitions. BTW I can press my bodyweight, I pressed 225 for 3 clean repetitions. In addition as I stated before but it didn't seem to ring any bells, because nobody has common sense. The more you weigh, the more difficult it is to press your bodyweight.

Eibro
09-02-2002, 12:14 AM
http://www.criticalbench.com/chart.htm ... This chart is pretty accurate, at least it was for me. You 1 rep max shouldn't be too much different then what you can do for ~3 reps

1-3 reps to describe how much you can press? Unless this is how many reps you do when you workout, I don't see why you would use such a number.

Troll_King
09-02-2002, 12:23 AM
The only problem is that the chart doesn't even make any sense. It's trying to tell me that I should be able to bench 239 for 2 reps, and 293 for 10 reps? How does that make sense?

Troll_King
09-02-2002, 12:26 AM
I could have benched 235 for 1 rep for sure, but it doesn't matter. I will prove it. Note that even if that chart made some sense, than it is designed for athletes. It says that this is what athletes should be able to lift. I know tons of fat people that couldn't even bench 190 lbs, much less 275lbs.

endo
09-02-2002, 08:20 AM
How much is 225 in proper weights? Y'know kilograms, I'm trying to work out how many of me your lifting :)

Eibro
09-02-2002, 10:10 AM
That chart makes perfect sense. You must have read it wrong... if you can bench 235lbs for 3 reps, then your max is around 256lbs.

And endo, pounds / 2.2 = kilograms.

biosninja
09-02-2002, 01:16 PM
Get over yourself Troll_King. I know a lot of guys (including me)that can do that without any steroids.:cool:

endo
09-02-2002, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Eibro
And endo, pounds / 2.2 = kilograms.

Thanks, that makes more sense now - its nearly 2 of me, I'm not a big person :)

Anyway it all depends how big you are, its unlikely I could lift that but if I weighed 250 pounds it'd be easy...

Troll_King
09-02-2002, 01:31 PM
Sure, sure, everyone could do it...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Troll_King
09-02-2002, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Eibro
That chart makes perfect sense. You must have read it wrong... if you can bench 235lbs for 3 reps, then your max is around 256lbs.

And endo, pounds / 2.2 = kilograms.

I benched 225lbs for 3 reps. My max is around 235lbs. I'm confident that I'll be able to bench 245lbs for 2 reps in about a month from now. Hopefully my body weight will drop down to 225lbs due to the increased exercising. This is an above average lift even if it is only my bodyweight. I'm a normal civilian, not an athlete. It appears that I should bench 245 though, but most guys who weigh over 200 lbs can not bench press in proportion to their weight unless they lift weights regularly. I've been lifting weights off and on for about 5 years.

biosninja
09-02-2002, 01:53 PM
Besides, endo is right. Your size does matter!!

another factor is how long a person has been doing it. Even if you stop for a certain peroid and start again, you can pick up where you left up again in no time (yourm muscles never forget)

biosninja
09-02-2002, 01:57 PM
I weigh in at about 190 pounds also a normal civilian an been going about in the gym for 2 and a half years now and my max is 286.5 pounds for one rep.

A lot of it depends on your eating habbits and especially the program you follow.

Troll_King
09-02-2002, 01:57 PM
I don't expect a 150lbs person to bench press 225lbs, but as you get bigger the ratio of body strengh to size increases yields diminishing returns. Most big people are fat, they are not all pure muscle.

Troll_King
09-02-2002, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by biosninja
I weigh in at about 190 punds also a normal civilian an been going about in the gym for 2 and a half years now and my max is 286.5 pounds for one rep.

A lot of it depends on your eating habbits and especially the program you follow.

Holly Christ are you a negro or something. That is not natural.

biosninja
09-02-2002, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Troll_King
Holly Christ are you a negro or something. That is not natural.

And Why is that? Does one have to be a certain weight to be able to do something else?
The power of the mind is something great. Being focused in the gym along with the right atmosphere and training parter is the winnning formula.

Troll_King
09-02-2002, 02:05 PM
The right combination of steriods will work wonders, yeah that's true. Why are you a small 190lbs.

Eibro
09-02-2002, 02:56 PM
Even if you stop for a certain peroid and start again, you can pick up where you left up again in no time (yourm muscles never forget)

Hah, how false is that. Your body periodically dines on your muscles if it needs a certian nutrient... and whatever you're not using gets broken down after awhile.

Troll_King
09-02-2002, 03:00 PM
It takes 8-10 weeks or so of dedicated working out to get back to where you were say a year ago. If you took steroids than you will never get back to where you were.

biosninja
09-02-2002, 03:19 PM
Why is it so hard for you to believe that there is some people better than you?

Troll_King
09-05-2002, 02:16 AM
Because I would rather fight. I did not say that I was better than anyone, but that is what you are implying. I just think that 225 is good for someone who isn't on roids.

Gades
09-05-2002, 08:28 AM
I don't go to the GYM, but my brother does.
I asked him how much he usually does, and about his weight:

olympic weight: 260 pounds

his body weight: 160 pounds

he's also about 6'' 1'

He only takes some proteins, because he's vegetarian.

I think he does weights about 4 times a week; plus boxing 3 times a week.

How'd you clasify that, TK?

Troll_King
09-05-2002, 08:44 AM
Steriods.

Gades
09-05-2002, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Troll_King
Steriods.

If that answer was to my post, you're wrong.

Troll_King
09-05-2002, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Gades
If that answer was to my post, you're wrong.

Not only does it sound like steriods, but it sounds like steriod overdose.

Gades
09-05-2002, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Troll_King
Not only does it sound like steriods, but it sounds like steriod overdose.

Not at all. I know what my brother has done and what he hasn't done. I use to train with him as well (not only live with him). And during the last five years he's never taken anything else than proteins. The first year he didn't take even proteins, but the doctor told him that his body couldn't handle that much; so he opted for healthy food (although vegetarian) and proteins.

Troll_King
09-05-2002, 04:58 PM
I just know that some guys walk around with the needle still sticking in their neck because they forget to take it out. If your borther has been training for that long tham maybe it's true. I am not an expert weight lifter.