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biosninja
08-13-2002, 05:46 PM
I was just wondering how many programmers are actually female.
I know this sounds a bit weird but the most programmers i have met is mostly male and i can only think of 3 female programmers that I know.:)

MethodMan
08-13-2002, 05:51 PM
I would say, according to the females in my program, 90% of programmers are males.

biosninja
08-13-2002, 05:56 PM
If indeed so, why?

Does women in general dislike programming? Or is it just that women don't like programming because it doesn't interest them?

Prelude
08-13-2002, 07:36 PM
>Or is it just that women don't like programming because it doesn't interest them?
This seems to be the most logical conclusion, though programming doesn't interest the majority of the population, so that's no surprise. Before I really gave programming a shot, I considered it a 'guy thing', mostly because every famous programmer was male. I think that the female mind is better suited to programming, but most females have better things on their minds. ;) It takes a certain amount of interest + insanity to stick with computers long enough to get the full effect.

-Prelude

Commander
08-13-2002, 07:55 PM
r u trying to say we're insane?

EDIT:: i just noticed, no females!!!!!!!!!
EDIT2:: I ment on the poll :mad:

mithrandir
08-13-2002, 08:22 PM
Most female programmers I've met are pretty switched on.

If only they were all as sexy as Rachel Leigh Cook ;)...or Prelude (if you've seen her pic you'll know what I mean :D).

Prelude
08-13-2002, 08:43 PM
>r u trying to say we're insane?
Are you saying we're not? How do you define sane? :D

-Prelude

black
08-13-2002, 09:08 PM
it depends. in my city some girls are good at ASP, but lack of girls who are well in C++~ :p

d00b
08-13-2002, 09:10 PM
*ahem* by definition programmers are insane. . .

- programmer

<job> (Or "computer programmer", "developer") Someone who writes or debugs computer programs through psychological impairment, for a living or for fun.

black
08-13-2002, 09:13 PM
It's a bomb !!! femal programmer have one vote now !!!

everybody please hurry up to figure out who she is~ :p

d00b
08-13-2002, 09:16 PM
:rolleyes:

Xterria
08-13-2002, 09:23 PM
girls cant rape the hardrive if it screws up

doubleanti
08-13-2002, 10:02 PM
excuse me?

ygfperson
08-13-2002, 10:18 PM
that's one of xterra's trademark posts... need i say more?

the only reason why there's only one female listed in the poll is because bassy hasn't ventured across the general board yet.

oskilian
08-13-2002, 11:34 PM
Did you actually knew that the first programmer ever was a woman? her name was Ada Lovelace, and I believe that there is an alternate programming language still around called Ada.

Oskilian

black
08-13-2002, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by oskilian
Did you actually knew that the first programmer ever was a woman? her name was Ada Lovelace, and I believe that there is an alternate programming language still around called Ada.

Oskilian

yep. I read an article about her. Frankly, she is the mother of programming language. :)

ober
08-14-2002, 05:49 AM
*sigh*.... how many times are we gonna see this freakin poll??

biosninja
08-14-2002, 09:18 AM
Now, If a woman was the first programmer ever, and if we are insane to be programming, what does that tell us about women?

Is there some hidden agenda?:D

(No offence ladies);)

netboy
08-14-2002, 10:07 AM
It doesn't matter whether you are male or female to be a programmer...

All you need is a programmer's brain.

biosninja
08-14-2002, 10:12 AM
Spoken like a true programmer!

People may say we are crazy to stick with the machines, but I say not! we all deserve to be different. we are the future!:D

Fountain
08-14-2002, 06:45 PM
or we just want a good standard of living...male OR female? Huh

toaster
08-16-2002, 12:20 AM
:confused: @ " How many programmers are actually female? "
I don't think there is an accurate answer to thius question.
do you mean how many female programmers access this board?
anyhow, programmers are programmers, software engineers, or whatever you want to call 'em.
as long as they are of big help, learn to respect them.
(and then there are the people that you shouldn't care about like me).
now, who cares if they are male or female?
no offense but why does this thread sound so feministic?
people should get along with each other here...

Dual-Catfish
08-16-2002, 09:47 PM
Yeah, stop bashing the females. They're good at cooking, cleaning, and making me my damn supper. :D

face_master
08-17-2002, 06:49 AM
45 votes, yet there are almost 5000 registered members here...interesting

sweets
08-17-2002, 07:05 AM
Make it 6 now :p and at the uni I go to, there is only a handfull of us females and the funny thing is, we are all pretty good at what we do....that is, programming and helping the guys program :D

Sophie

frenchfry164
08-17-2002, 10:50 AM
I'm the only person I know in real life that is a programmer :p

compjinx
08-17-2002, 04:30 PM
Wasn't it a female that coined the phrase "computer bug"?

Anyways, my thoughts on why girls don't like programming, or computers in general:
1. They don't like the future it depicts: Sitting around typing away at a computer, be it alone or next to a bunch of geeky smelly ugly hunch-backed computer nerd, the future looks grim.

2. females usually stick to the steriotype of being a housewife, however I have seen that those who choose to do something REALLY do it! If the girl becomes a programmer she doesn't just sit around a programming board 24/7 partaking in mindless conversations, she is instead out to become the best programmer she can be (and usually acheives it, it's just that most want to be housewives).

3. They are smarter, they don't wast time on boring message boards like the mindless men around them (I am Male, it's just that I spend a lot of time around females so I am wording it the way they would).

Can't really think of anything else to say.

doubleanti
08-18-2002, 12:43 AM
>" How many programmers are actually female? "

hm... well if you've read about me in the past... you might recall that at one point it was verified that i was 85 percent female and 15 percent male... seek and ye shall find...

fox
08-18-2002, 12:37 PM
I think there are both good female & male programmers.
There does seem to be more male programmers though.
Considering that 2 out of the last 5 instructors I sat in on
to critique were females & that most of the females in
the classes did well, I think female programmers will be
around for awhile :)

-fox

billholm
08-20-2002, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Prelude
>I think that the female mind is better suited to programming-Prelude

Yes I agree :) When I develop programs, I often ask girls to evaluate the finished products and they tell me what to improve. I tend to be result-oriented in my approach (to the extent of sloppy coding sometimes) but my girls are the ones who suggest some program elegance. They are quite meticulous. :D

netboy
08-20-2002, 10:20 AM
My girlfriend is a programmer!:D

DISGUISED
08-20-2002, 10:35 AM
In my class section at school we have exactly three girls out of around 150 people. One is just lost, one is pretty decent but asks the most annoying and pointless questions you have ever heard and the third one can code circles around just about everyone else.

All the girls I know that are good are really good. Just like others have said, they have the analytical tools for it.

Govtcheez
08-20-2002, 10:37 AM
>One is just lost, one is pretty decent but asks the most annoying and pointless questions you have ever heard and the third one can code circles around just about everyone else.

That seems pretty much like the guys...

In my last programming class, there were 3 girls and only 2 guys... We had the 3 girls you listed there, too - one that was a genius (but still asked retarded questions), one that was decent (but asked pretty dumb questions), and one that was totally lost and retaking the class (and will be again next term)

DISGUISED
08-20-2002, 10:54 AM
I forgot to mention the one that is really good is also SMOKIN hot and has had a different cleavage bearing tank top for every day of this semester and apparently doesn't believe in bras. God Bless that girl.

Govtcheez
08-20-2002, 10:59 AM
Damn... A stiff wind would blow the smart girl in my class away... Plus, she always wore this ruby-red lipstick that I swear must have glowed in the dark...

The worst part was her voice, though :shudder:

doubleanti
08-20-2002, 11:33 AM
speaking of this...

http://www.angelfire.com/hi/villavillacola/bettymenu.html

let's hope that 1 to 1 ratio i saw at orientation holds through my four years... yeah it probably won't... but we shall see... and taking 4 math/sci/comp/ece classes per any semester is absolutely insane... looking forward to that...

Terrance
08-20-2002, 01:26 PM
1. Why are there so many more famous male programmers than female programmers:

I think you're all forgetting that the world hasn't quite turned a full evolution when it comes to women in the work place. If I'm not mistaken, women weren't considered "college material" until the 80's. Reason 1, why most famous programmers are males- programming is something that needs to be taught.

I have a friend that's female, and she was programming in pascal and fortran before c was even invented. But did she go to college... no! Because back then women weren't supposed to go to college. She did flow charts in high school, but quit after that, and is now a business consultant, and hasn't programmed in many years.

As far as why there's still so many more male programmers today. Well whoever said it's because of interest/lack of interest is the main reason (is probably right). I don't see why computers would interests males more than females, but who knows??? I'm sure there's reasons behind this, but lets face it, no one (probably) really knows why!