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sean
07-17-2002, 04:03 PM
Well there's been a lot of debate recently over whether or not Bin Laden is still alive or if he's dead. What do you think, and why?

Cshot
07-17-2002, 04:11 PM
I think he's dead. If he were alive, I believe we would've seen another video of him by now. He loves those cameras :cool:

DISGUISED
07-17-2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Cshot
I think he's dead. If he were alive, I believe we would've seen another video of him by now. He loves those cameras :cool:

I would have to agree. Those terrorists love to run their mouths. Hopefully he's in hell where he belongs.

Unregistered
07-17-2002, 04:58 PM
Dead or Alive...

there're many bin ladens out there who are extremely dangerous islamic fundamentalists/terrorrists from many nations, especially Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and we all should be very careful!!!

Fountain
07-17-2002, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by DISGUISED


I would have to agree. Those terrorists love to run their mouths. Hopefully he's in hell where he belongs.


Errmmm it is only 2 weeks since he was on the news in a video...We do not know when it was shot mind you, but he looked washed out/older/haggard type of thing

MethodMan
07-17-2002, 05:29 PM
I think he is alive. I think it will be very hard to find him alive, he would kill himself the moment someone found him, he probably has bombs attatched to himself with a button, and BOOOOOOM!

He wont be found alive, just like Hitler.

Klinerr1
07-17-2002, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Cshot
I think he's dead. If he were alive, I believe we would've seen another video of him by now. He loves those cameras :cool:

i agree with that to

Dalren
07-17-2002, 05:38 PM
I dont know, but i do know that if he was dead or captured the government wouldnt tell us. Think of it from a cost-reward standpoint. What does the Military/Intelligence Comunity gain from telling us that they killed/captured Usama... nothing, maybe a little good PR. But if they dont tell us, then they can continue to ask congress for all the money they need, and second if they told the world he was dead/captured the possible retaliation could make Sept. 11 look like a parade

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itld
07-17-2002, 05:47 PM
howdy,
i think he is alive, this guy is no fool. he hasn't finished his devilish deeds yet and he knows that with a price of $25,000,000.00 on his head even his friends cant be trusted.
no he is in a deep deep hole shivering in a corner like the coward he has allway been.

M.R.

Clyde
07-17-2002, 05:54 PM
"he knows that with a price of $25,000,000.00 on his head even his friends cant be trusted"

His followers dont care about money, they believe that by helping him they will go to heaven and nothing will change their minds.

itld
07-17-2002, 06:06 PM
howdy,
yea you're probably right.


M.R.

Xterria
07-17-2002, 07:17 PM
if he was dead or captured the government wouldnt tell us.

i completly agree. the government doesn't tell us anything. hell, bin laden could be running around in the country and the government knows. i mean, think about it, if he was, and they told us, there would be riots and un-official search parties with guns. crazy people would shoot any arab that they think would be binladen. there would be an extreme racism towards arabs in the US. it's just too risky to tell the public anything anymore.

novacain
07-17-2002, 11:08 PM
He is alive and probably still in Northern Pakistan.

He was wounded at Tora Bora during operation Anaconda, where the Aust SAS saved the US marines after their helo was downed. As the rescue helo came, the real ambush started. Classic Mujahidin tactics, learnt from the CIA, to fight the Russians.

Has said he will not make another video until he has retalited with another attack on the US.

>>if he was dead or captured the government wouldnt tell us.

What, miss out on all that prestiege, popularity and more importantly VOTES. I don't think so.
(but I know most of you are too young to vote and half of the rest of you US citizens don't bother)

itld
07-17-2002, 11:31 PM
howdy,

I know most of you are too young to vote and half of the rest of you US citizens don't bother
Damn novacain you hit it right on the head.

BTW whats the voter turn out rate in your part of the world.

M.R.

novacain
07-17-2002, 11:51 PM
Something like 98% (in Australia). We get fined (about US$25) for not voting.

We also have a different system. The preferential system. After all the votes are counted, if your first choice can't win, then they look at your second choice (and so on).

Some balot papers for our senate are printed on A2 paper! You have to number each of the 80 odd boxes or take the easy way out and pick one. (the party you choose distributes your preferences then)

We still get greedy, self obsessed, media created poiticians that should not be allowed out in public let alone run the country.

So same as yours, but we are all equally to blame!

dbaryl
07-18-2002, 12:56 AM
I think OBL is live and [hardly] kicking somewhere in Pakistan... but the tought that he could be here in the States in not all that scary, the man himself is not anywhere as dangerous as the organization.

Dalren
07-18-2002, 05:46 AM
>>if he was dead or captured the government wouldnt tell us.
What, miss out on all that prestiege, popularity and more importantly VOTES. I don't think so.


However, the intelligence comunity (CIA,NSA,...) and the military don't need votes, and as long as this "war on terrorism" continues they get huge budget increases. Now i know your going to say that the President would tell everyone because he would want the votes. However, its not that hard for them to keep it a secret from the President. Its a little know fact that the President's security clearence is somthing like being on a need to know basis. So it is possible for the Intelligence comunity to keep it a secret, even from the President

sean
07-18-2002, 10:59 AM
crazy people would shoot any arab - Exterria.
Right after September 11th, I knew this would happen, it was inevitable, and sure enough, 45 days later, a man wearing a turbin (sp?) get's up to go to the bathroom shortly after take-off and is tackled by half the plane! Well I'm just sorry for all you Arab immigrants - you guys are having to put up with a ton of racism I bet.

itld
07-18-2002, 12:24 PM
howdy,

you guys are having to put up with a ton of racism I bet.
sad but true, a small or maybe not so small number of Arabs have atracted a huge amount of negative attention upon the entire people.

M.R.

Commander
07-18-2002, 08:20 PM
i think osama is still alive, plotting his next attack. The thing makes me wonder though, how can he escape? even if he died, how come troops and technologies from the two of the most (militarily)powerful countries weren't able to find him?
strange....
EDIT :: I wrote this with Dalren's theory somewhere in my mind:D

Dalren
07-18-2002, 10:09 PM
>>EDIT :: I wrote this with Dalren's theory somewhere in my mind

YES!!!, only 5,999,999,998 people to go, soon i will control the world.