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hermit
06-20-2002, 08:39 PM
Im using windows , but ive been reading alot of mac especially mac os X. Im quite impressed it.

wanna know your views and what you think?

MethodMan
06-20-2002, 08:41 PM
I have never used a Mac Os, but after having so many problems with windows, and so few with linux, Linux all the way!

hermit
06-20-2002, 08:43 PM
But mac os X have shells just like linux. Im using linux on the other machine. It works perfectly. But just take a look at the GUI in mac os x. Unreal . .

frenchfry164
06-20-2002, 08:55 PM
Windows has shells too

Sentaku senshi
06-20-2002, 09:04 PM
Well were on the subject of shells.
http://www.shellcity.net/

hermit
06-21-2002, 05:10 AM
just wanna know the opinion of another user . .

anyone here?

ober
06-21-2002, 06:53 AM
Mac has done some amazing things to say the least. If you want to do ANYTHING with graphics or any type of video editing... Mac is the way to go... but keep in mind that most networks are built on windows platforms... and some of the software is not compatible with other formats, as with Linux... then again some of the coolest stuff I've ever seen came off of Mac OSX. Running 3 operating systems at once on the same machine... the processors alone are a work of art.

but alas... i'm stuck in a windows world for the most part because of work and such. :(

Xmevs
06-21-2002, 07:19 AM
It was Apple that invented the GUI. Microsoft got sued because apple claimed that they stole it from them. They lost. I hate MS.

Peace.



MS = multiple sclerosis, microsoft... whatever... same thing...

-KEN-
06-21-2002, 10:36 AM
>>It was Apple that invented the GUI. Microsoft got sued because apple claimed that they stole it from them. They lost. I hate MS.

Damn, you're either stupid or misinformed (or both! Yay!). Xerox invented the GUI, Apple stole it from Xerox, MS stole it from Apple (in part because Apple made a fantastically stupid decision), and Linux stole it from MS.

They couldn't exactly win a case by saying "They stole an idea that we stole!! Wahhh!!!"

ober
06-21-2002, 11:22 AM
ahh... the ever present knowledge of the great -Ken-... :)

good show chap!

Barjor
06-21-2002, 11:29 AM
I haven't really worked with osX but the gui sure looks sweet. I love that liquid stuff they use on there menues. I wish it would be awailable for I386 procs though. As it is now I would have a hard time fork up the money for one of those desined boxes. Maybee they could ship there GUI as a Linux shell..that would be nice.

DrakkenKorin
06-21-2002, 12:13 PM
Now if I'm not mistaken (if I am, I'm sure -Ken- will point it out :D), isn't OSX somewhat Unix based. Or is it just modeled after Unix?

Well what I do know is that their (Mac's) next OS venture is Jaguar which uses a Unix kernel. Can't wait to see what that'll be like.

Barjor
06-21-2002, 12:18 PM
Well I am no Ken :( but I know that OS X is built on a Unix kernel, Opend BSD if I am not misstaken..Maybee Ken knows:D

-KEN-
06-21-2002, 12:44 PM
The almighty google shall reveal the answer.

dirkduck
06-21-2002, 01:08 PM
Well I've heard pretty much nothing but good about it. I hear it has a program called "project builder" that ships with the OS, which is like MSVC++, but nicer to work with. I've never used it first hand though.

Dalren
06-21-2002, 01:54 PM
OS X is based on FreeBSD, FreeBSD being a modified version of berkley(I have a feeling I speeld that wrong) Unix. Technicly OS X is just a shell on top of a modified version of FreeBSD.

Now on if you should get one or not. Personally I would say no, but that is proably based on my anti-apple bias. I think its one of those situations where you either like apples or you hate them, personally I hate them, they are ugly (I dont want my computer to look like a **** desk lamp), they dont run alot of what I want to run, your stuck with apple-made hardware, and apple doesnt really listen to what their users say, so when they screw up your stuck with their screw up.

An example of this is the round mouse that shipped with the original Imac. It was a gigantic failure, there was no way to tell which direction the mouse was oriented by feel, so you would move it one direction and it would go in another. Despite numerous complaints about this they never did anything about it and never even admitted that it was a design flaw.

The only real good things that come with OS X are the things that it gets from being based on FreeBSD, and a better way to get these features is to get a PC and put FreeBSD,Unix,Linux, etc.. on it.

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Back in the day Windows user criticized Apple users because the Mac OS was a pure GUI with no command line interface behind it. Now Windows is a pure GUI, and OS X has a command line interface behind it. Guess what Windows users say now...

hostensteffa
06-22-2002, 02:12 AM
I'm not a mac guy at all, but they seem like they're good if you deal with a lot of graphics. And i haven't really read anything on it much but i've heard that osX is based on the unix kernel. but i could be wrong there. It's mostly just a matter of preference. In my opinion Mac = Graphics Windows = Ease
Linux = Stability/ Fun ( :

Unregistered
06-22-2002, 02:40 AM
-something I found on the web (has the option to emulate Mac OS?):

http://www.yaromat.com/

I've tried it, saw it, and restarted my computer.
something I don't quite recommend. try at your own risk.

-toaster

tim545666
06-22-2002, 02:48 AM
I'm not a mac guy at all, but they seem like they're good if you deal with a lot of graphics.I don't know where this myth sprouted up, but I'm pretty sure it's completely false. If you want to do any kind of 3d modeling, PC's are light years ahead of Mac's. Most major 3d modeling programs don't even run on Macs. And as far as 2d graphics go, there is no difference. Both machines can run them fine. there is no difference. As far as 3d animation goes, I don't think that 3d studio max (the most popular 3d animaiton software) runs on macs, but I could be wrong. I think the reason that realisti animated movies are made on macs is because the animators are art people and artsy fartsy people are usually the ones that use macs (and cats too, damn fruitcakes).

I have two uncles who do 2d/3d modeling and a little 3d animation, they both use PC's and absolutely hate macs. Other people they know in the business also feel the same way about macs.

I use a mac at work, and I HATE IT. No right-click buttion just drives me insane!!!!

Captain Penguin
06-22-2002, 08:24 AM
Macs suck.

I just saw a commercial last night with this woman standing in a room. She said something like "I could never understand the moving around and opening stuff up. Then I got a mac. It's just so much easier to understand.. it really feels intuitive, and I can do things I could never do with a PC."

Why? Because she's an idiot. And besides, you have to "move around and open stuff up" in windows, too.

I havn't used Mac OS X, but I'm pretty sure it is basically the same GUI as the older OS'es, correct? (just different system base). If I'm correct, what a piece of tripe. I HATE that GUI interface, it just stinks. Making it *nix based is great, but other than that.. poo!

DrakkenKorin
06-22-2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by tim545666
... I use a mac at work, and I HATE IT. No right-click buttion just drives me insane!!!!

That's not the Mac's fault, that's your mouse's fault. Mac's support 2 button mouses (mice?) since OS9.1. You can get yourself a new mouse with 2 button and scroll wheel and the Mac will use it (given that you're running OS9.1 or higher.

GaPe
09-07-2002, 02:12 AM
I'm using Windows but I would love to try that Mac computer and the OS X.

Fordy
09-07-2002, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by tim545666
I don't know where this myth sprouted up, but I'm pretty sure it's completely false. If you want to do any kind of 3d modeling, PC's are light years ahead of Mac's. Most major 3d modeling programs don't even run on Macs. And as far as 2d graphics go, there is no difference. Both machines can run them fine. there is no difference. As far as 3d animation goes, I don't think that 3d studio max (the most popular 3d animaiton software) runs on macs, but I could be wrong. I think the reason that realisti animated movies are made on macs is because the animators are art people and artsy fartsy people are usually the ones that use macs (and cats too, damn fruitcakes).

I have two uncles who do 2d/3d modeling and a little 3d animation, they both use PC's and absolutely hate macs. Other people they know in the business also feel the same way about macs.

I use a mac at work, and I HATE IT. No right-click buttion just drives me insane!!!!

As part of my job I have to visit various arts based organisations from time to time.....The vast majority of them use Macs for graphical design and animation, but as to to question of are Macs better for this stuff, I dont know...my personal feeling is that I doubt it......

I also get to see the bills for these "hip & trendy" looking devices and sometimes its enough to make me fall out of my chair!!!

I dont doubt that they are very good machines, but I think the way Apple control them has been their downfall.......IBM did better.....they announced to the world how their machines work and this is why the PC rules the world.

face_master
09-07-2002, 02:53 AM
One of my best friends runs MAC OSX and its exellent!. The original OSX was a buggy piece of crap, but since MAC OS 10.1, its the best OS i've ever seen. I'd get one myself, but its hard to find stuff that runs on it. Windows is dominating, so I need to go with that or i'm screwed. As for GUI, I was going to tell you about how Xerox originally made it, then the company sold it off the Apple becuase they thought it was going to be a huge flop, but they were wrong beyond belief. Windows then befriended Steve Jobs and made him think that Gates was his ally, but in actual fact, he just stole his OS and changed it a bit. Jobs though IBM was the enemy, but Gates was the real enemy. I got all this from the movie Pirates of Silicon Valey. Best movie ever.

Nutshell
09-07-2002, 03:01 AM
I think winxp's GUI is damn nice. But i got bored of it, what a shame. Maybe i'll download a mac os scheme or sumthing ^^.

TravisS
09-07-2002, 02:29 PM
Hehe, I've had OSX skins on XP for about 3 months now :D

I personally haven't used a Mac since highschool (even though I repair Mac's and am Apple certified, yikes!) but I have hear a lot of good, and even more bad, things about them. I'll stick to XP for now thank you :)