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mithrandir
09-25-2001, 07:24 PM
Do you think the Matrix was a rip off somewhat of Ghost in the Shell?

Koshare
09-25-2001, 07:54 PM
the matrix effect wasnt original, it was basically over used that is all. in the movie Kuffs they had bullet time and this was in like 1988... I havent seen Ghost in the shell in a while, dont remeber it very well but yes what ever you say the matrix is a rip of of it probably is.

no-one
09-25-2001, 08:32 PM
yes, it did rip off some major concepts of GITS, but then again there was another anime it ripped off of too, can't remember what it was though.

as for the So called greatest fight scenes ever, I have two words for ya,

Twin Warriors.

taylorguitarman
09-25-2001, 09:13 PM
Regardless if it was, the great thing about the matrix was the slow motion graphics technology. A truly revolutionary thing that they did very well. It's amazing what actually goes on to get those 360 deg shots. Simply amazing.

mithrandir
09-25-2001, 11:01 PM
Yeah well it was a couple of Australian guys who did all the SFX so of course they were brilliant :D, lol. Anyhow, I like the Matrix, but it sure as hell isn't original. Very similar plot to GITS, aside from some minor changes here and there.

doubleanti
09-25-2001, 11:07 PM
another great filming film would be The Truman Show... and for another extreme... it would have to be Requiem for a Dream...

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Fordy
09-26-2001, 03:49 AM
The sound was also great in that film....If you saw it on a decent setup

Govtcheez
09-26-2001, 08:14 AM
>The Truman Show

I love that movie - it actually (gasp) makes you think....

taylorguitarman
09-26-2001, 06:16 PM
along the lines of the matrix-
how many of you have seen the thirteenth floor?
I thought it was a little bit more realistic.

Scourfish
09-26-2001, 09:07 PM
It's also been hailed as a rip off of the bible, which is complete bologna.

Scourfish
09-26-2001, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by doubleanti
another great filming film would be The Truman Show... and for another extreme... it would have to be Requiem for a Dream...

JUICE JUICE JUICE!!!

Yes, Requiem for a Dream was great, but I didn't notice very many differences in the Uncut DVD, except for a slight bit more nudity.

If you're looking for a real good movie, go for "Heathers". Anything that has Christian Slater and Wynona Ryder trying to blow up a school is good stuff.

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kermi3
09-26-2001, 09:27 PM
Matrix was a rip off of one thing: Sim City!

SilentStrike
09-26-2001, 11:25 PM
The matrix, minus that extremely lame ending, was a good movie.

Unregistered
09-27-2001, 11:14 PM
You want good fight scenes, no-one?
Enter the Dragon. Bruce Lee is so incredibly fast. He makes Jet Li look like Chris Farley.

no-one
09-27-2001, 11:34 PM
>how many of you have seen the thirteenth floor?

i have and i must agree...it was a good movie.


>Enter the Dragon. Bruce Lee is so incredibly fast. He makes Jet Li look like Chris Farley.

how true that is, i don't like Jet Li its just the movie was great anyway, but your right Bruce Lee would kick his ass.

Fordy
09-28-2001, 01:12 AM
I know its not strictly a martial art film…but the choreography on Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon was amazing

Theologian
09-28-2001, 06:44 AM
Not to stear away from the exciting topic of who's choreographed/fake fighting is best, but...

If you are thinking that the common thread between Ghost in the Shell and the Matrix are the questions of "What is real?", "What comprises a person?", "What can we really know is true?" then they are both rip offs.

A movie that pops to mind that predates both is Brazil. But none of them can point blame at the others. The questions they explore have been around for quite a long time. These films explore basic ideas of epistemology in a somewhat simple fashion.

The similarities come because as computers have become better and better at portraying things to us and we begin to envision what they may do in the future-- they become the perfect vehicle to use as a means of considering that what we see and do may not be "real".

But Plato wrote of the men in the cave watching shadows on the wall quite a while back and he was responding to ideas that were around long before he came on the scene.

This is not to even mention that almost all art of any kind is derivative in some way or another. It is impossible for it to be otherwise. People (normal ones any way) do not live in a vacuum.

I liked the matrix but Ghost in the Shell is a much better film in my opinion. It really spends more time looking at the issues of what makes a person a person. And it is the only anime I have run across yet that quotes the Bible. Real interesting to me.

Well- the balcony is closed until next time.