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Garfield
09-23-2001, 06:19 PM
Which do you like better, Star Wars or Star Trek?

Garfield
09-23-2001, 06:20 PM
I choose Star Wars.

Witch_King
09-23-2001, 06:50 PM
Which Star Trek? The old or the new. I like the old series the best. When I was a kid I liked starwars but as I got older I appreciated the 'old' star trek.

Garfield
09-23-2001, 06:54 PM
I guess you can choose whether it is the old or new Star Trek. I wouldn't really know. I had watched in some years ago, but I go for all Star Wars now. So, you choose, old or new.

alex6852
09-23-2001, 07:57 PM
I'm a big fan of Star Trek Voyager. This movie is realy good.

mithrandir
09-23-2001, 11:27 PM
I like both, but I'm not really a serious Trekkie or SW fan. I've got the Star Wars vidoes and some books and they are cool, but I don't go to conventions or anthing like that.

no-one
09-23-2001, 11:36 PM
After Episode one(wasn't really that bad...hah) i kinda think lucas has gone soft in the head, but maybe he'll do bettr with EP 2,

I can't really say with the poll though I love the original Star Trek especially the Episode and no i don't know the name but the original Kan vs. Captain Kirk. Which the second movie later took off of which is great...

anyways im just waiting for LOTR it's has the potential to be the greatest trilogy ever...

mithrandir
09-23-2001, 11:42 PM
>anyways im just waiting for LOTR it's has the potential to be the greatest trilogy ever...

Fingers crossed :X:

Witch_King
09-24-2001, 01:41 AM
There are a few important distinctions between starwars IV-VI and episode I.

Luke was an underdog whereas Anakin is more certain and seems to take his powers for granted. It is ironic how Luke succeeds to overcome the dark side while Anakin fails. I think that Luke is easier to relate too.

The romance between Leia and Solo was quite good. Leia was hard to get and that was fun to watch. We'll see what happens between Anakin and Padme next episode.


Startrek (old series)
The old startrek was great because the storylines were all good and the actors are unforgetable. There is a lot of truth in startrek and it seemed like the movies made a lot of sense. I wanted to see more of these movies but deforest kelly is gone and the rest of the cast is too old. The characters interacted seemlessly and I laughed so much at the persistant comedy. I love all those characters. I'll never forget them. As far as the new startrek, I don't care for it too much.

mithrandir
09-24-2001, 01:58 AM
The SFX in Episode I were bar none, but the story really didn't do it for me. It felt "dumbed-down" perhaps to suite a younger audience (which may sound strange coming from an 18yo). I liked it, don't get me wrong, but I thought after all the hype and the years that Lucas had to really write a solid script, it could have been far better than it was. Jar Jar was just plain stupid - funny for five minutes but seriously annoying after that! Episodes IV-VI were brilliant. Sure the original SFX weren't that great, but the characters were geniuinely interesting, as were the stories.

StarTrek? Well the old TV show's were pretty lame, but the original movies were really something. Who could forget Wrath of Khan? Again the characters really made StarTrek. The more recent versions such as Voyager, don't have the same impact. The only new generation character of Trek who I could liked was Picard. Though I think this is more to do with the actor who plays him (temporarily can't remember his name!).

Fordy
09-24-2001, 02:52 AM
>>The only new generation character of Trek who I could liked was Picard. Though I think this is more to do with the actor who plays him

Patrick Stewart?

mithrandir
09-24-2001, 02:54 AM
Doh! Yeah that's the guy.

Fordy
09-24-2001, 02:59 AM
I loved the StarWars films as a kid.....Thy were my world. When ep1 came out I went to see it as soon as I can, and I must say that I really liked it. I had been waiting for these filmes for ages (well since Lucus hinted at them being filmed all those years ago).
Yeah... that JaJa gut was not great, but for me he did not spoil the film. As to the film not being as dark as the others, well... I suppose that is true, but this I would hope is due to it being the first film of the story, when the empire was not about. I imagine that when filming is over for two, you will see a steady progression into darkness as Anakin gets turned, Padmae (?) dies and the jedis all get wiped out.

ehsiq
09-24-2001, 04:07 AM
star trek-the next generation...
i love the data character.

Govtcheez
09-24-2001, 06:22 AM
Luke was an underdog whereas Anakin is more certain and seems to take his powers for granted. It is ironic how Luke succeeds to overcome the dark side while Anakin fails. I think that Luke is easier to relate tooI never thought about that.... That's a good point - I think you're right, Dean...

I voted for Star Trek - if this was pre-EP 1, then it would gone the other way...

Witch_King
09-24-2001, 08:13 AM
The comedy between spock and the doctor is too good. Also scotty is funny as hell. I remember in one of the episodes where scotty says, 'That Klingon ***** killed her father', LMAO.

This is especially funny because if you observe the serious tone of Startrek I and II, and compare it to subsequent episodes you really notice a difference. In the later shows they begin to swear freely. There are hundreds of hilarious scenes. I laughed a lot more at startrek.

Pendragon
09-24-2001, 12:01 PM
Star Trek-The Next Generation...

...Patrick Stuart does a fabulous job and Jean-Luc Picard.

-Pen

Cheeze-It
09-24-2001, 03:41 PM
Star Trek blows Star Wars away. I've watched it
for so long, it's hard to imagine life without it.
I almost cried during the series finale of Voyager.

I've never been a big fan of the old series, and
that's probably because I didn't see it until well
after I started watching TNG. When you see a 2nd-
generation Klingon before a Klingon from the
original series...something is screwy. They
don't have their cranial ridges, and it's never
explained how they got them. In the DSN-Tribble
episode, Warf says it's something they don't
discuss with outsiders...

Not to mention the deep, political metaphor that
is Star Trek. Roddenberry was obviously not a fan
of Capitalism. You can see it in how he created
the Star Trek universe. Capitalism is depicted
by the Ferengi. The greedy, do-anything-for-profit,
ugly, little aliens. Earth (America) seems to have
evolved from a Capitalist ecomony, to a Communist
Utopia in TNG. It's really very interesting.

"A lot has changed in the last 300 years. People
are no longer obsessed with the acquisition of
'things'. We have eliminated hunger, want, the
need for possessions. We've grown out of our
infancy." -Captain Picard. Politics of Star Trek (http://victorian.fortunecity.com/wooton/414/trek.html)

It's a great franchise and I can't wait until
Wednesday when the new series, "Enterprise,"
premiers. It's kind of sad to know that we'll
probably never see a Borg in this series, but
it still looks interesting.

Garfield
09-26-2001, 04:22 PM
So far, Star Wars is in the leed (rightfully so--not to take any sides or anything).

Theologian
09-26-2001, 04:43 PM
I prefer the Star Wars movies to the Star Trek movies.

I prefer the Star Trek television shows to the Star Wars television shows.

I am very, very much looking forward to the premiere of Enterprise tonight.

During Angel the other night I saw the latest trailer for LOTR. It had me literally shaking w/anticipation and the hair was standing on the back of my neck. It will be Awesome.

Fordy
09-26-2001, 04:51 PM
>>LOTR

I'm holding out for that little baby too. Just hope its not a letdown. After being a fan of the books, I would be suprised if that was the case though.

Natase
09-26-2001, 04:59 PM
J.R.R Tolkien + Peter Jackson (a New Zealander) = Brilliant.

Don't see how these movies could possibly be bad. Everyone who's read the book(s) will have their own ideas about how it should look but I reckon Jackson'll do a pretty good job of pleasing most people.

Fordy
09-26-2001, 05:08 PM
Woah... step back..... is this the same Peter Jackson that did Brain Dead???

Witch_King
09-26-2001, 06:30 PM
Why don't you go to the website: www.lordoftherings.net

There is something like 1 hr of Media Player interviews with Peter Jackson as well as tons of other stuff including all the trailers, etc. This website is something like the 3rd most popular in the world. Or at least I heard something to that effect.

Fordy
09-26-2001, 06:45 PM
Why don't you go to the website: www.lordoftherings.net

Thats a cool site.

The film is now making me drool....

Witch_King
09-26-2001, 06:49 PM
I'm currently downloading that new trailer. It's taking about 10 minutes to download and I have a cable modem, although I did choose the full screen download. In about 10 minutes I'll edit this reply and give my critique.

Holy ****, it's ****ing awesome!

Cheeze-It
09-26-2001, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Witch_King
I'm currently downloading that new trailer. It's taking about 10 minutes to download and I have a cable modem, although I did choose the full screen download. In about 10 minutes I'll edit this reply and give my critique.

Holy ****, it's ****ing awesome!

Yeah, they played the trailer on Access Hollywood
yesterday. Very, very cool.

Cheeze-It
09-26-2001, 09:48 PM
I am very, very much looking forward to the premiere of Enterprise tonight.


Did you watch it? I thought it was pretty good.
But, what the heck is up with the Klingons? This
takes place pre-Kirk. Did the writers forget
what the Klingons looked like back then? Even
Warf acknowledges the differences between
past and present Klingons.

Yes, I realize that this probably was intentional.
The old Klingons were not intimidating...

Ooh, I wonder if the Klingons will be the Borg/
Dominion of this series.

Natase
09-27-2001, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Fordy
Woah... step back..... is this the same Peter Jackson that did Brain Dead???

One and the same... It'll be interesting to see what someone with that kind of imagination will do if you keep throwing money at him...

Fordy
09-28-2001, 01:02 AM
>> Peter Jackson

Ive got that film under the "watch only when drunk section" of my vid collection. Its funny as hell when he goes to work with the lawnmower at the end. Cant eat when its on though......

Random quote...."I kick arse for the Lord"

Natase
09-28-2001, 08:02 AM
I'd give good money to anyone who could eat say... a stew... during the alien-vomit eating section. Watched that in class for the last day of school one year and saw my teacher run out the room dry-retching :)

Govtcheez
09-28-2001, 08:17 AM
> saw my teacher run out the room dry-retching

hmmm.... And you say this movie is called "Brain Dead"... Sounds like it's time for Govtcheez to go to the video store....

Fordy
09-28-2001, 08:33 AM
Yea GC...but get drunk first....