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face_master
04-26-2002, 12:57 AM
Is it worth learning delphi?

Carlos
04-26-2002, 01:38 AM
Delphi is great, it's easy-to-use, using the built-in visual components even a child can build a simple but functional program.
I wouldn't use anything else for e.g. building a database application, especially when the job has to be done quickly.

Besides, Object Pascal is really easy to understand.

face_master
04-26-2002, 09:48 PM
Are there any good books that I could buy to learn Delphi?

Fordy
04-27-2002, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by face_master
Are there any good books that I could buy to learn Delphi? Mastering Delphi (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0782128742/ref=sr_aps_books_1_2/202-8610399-5739822)

I dont have this book, but I have seen lots of real good reviews on it...........Also there's loads of ebooks on the web........

Carlos
04-27-2002, 03:45 AM
Voting with "No" without arguments ... well ;)
I guess the guys don't even know what's Delphi.


- Why don't programmers from India go to U.S. to find a job?
- ???
- Because they can only program in Delphi. ;)

Fordy
04-27-2002, 04:08 AM
I liked Delphi (well what I saw of it!!!)

I messed around with a few forms.........managed to connect to a database....and that was real easy!!!

Nice IDE.......

RobR
04-27-2002, 05:22 AM
Please don't flame me too hard for this, but don't the same arguments hold true for VB?? Nice IDE, easy DB connection etc?

I must admit, I tend to prototype in VB, cos I can get a quick & dirty dem running in a couple of hours........ quite often I then just leave it at that cos it works!

(BTW, I didn't vote cos I know nothing of Delphi)

Carlos
04-27-2002, 05:30 AM
Once I made a small program in VB, just for fun. It was a tiny demo, some bitmaps, nothing special.
I copied the exe to a floppy disk to show it to my colleagues.

On the other computer it said: xxx dll not found, yyy ocx not found, etc.

So, I went back and copied on other 2 disks the reaquired stuff.
When I tried to run the program, it still needed another dll's...
The tale that never ends...

Delphi doesn't need to be installed on the computer where you want to run your program. It's a great tool, that's my opinion.

RobR
04-27-2002, 05:34 AM
Yeah, it's a good point Carlos. Must admit to being gobsmacked when I first wrote something in C and I didn't need an installation routine to run it on another PC. VB does tend to be a little "flabby"!!!

taylorguitarman
04-27-2002, 07:44 AM
The lanuage behind Delphi (Pascal) is also much closer to the power and flexibility of C/C++ and it's cross platform (GUI too using CLX). You can't say that about VB. RobR's right, they are similar products though (both RAD development tools).
If Linux users are interested, Kylix is the Linux version.
http://www.borland.com/kylix/

Aran
04-27-2002, 06:00 PM
dayknight: have you programmed in pascal before? it's a good programming language to say the least. I haven't looked to deeply into Object Pascal, but from what i've seen it is viable.

(i programmed in pascal for a year before i started C++)

Shiro
04-28-2002, 02:43 AM
I used to program in Pascal before C, it is a very nice language. I've done object oriented programming in Pascal (Turbo Pascal) and it was quite easy and clear programming. Though I've no experience with Object Pascal and Delphi, though I will vote yes, since it is never wrong to learn something.

face_master
04-28-2002, 05:04 AM
what would be the best IDE for delphi? Are there any free ones?

Fordy
04-28-2002, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by face_master
what would be the best IDE for delphi? Are there any free ones?

Delphi is the IDE.........

I guess they may be other tools out there....

mithrandir
04-28-2002, 06:53 AM
I saw a mag the other day offering a free version of Delphi 6 - I think I might get it and fool around with some time. I've done a bit of Pascal before, it's not that bad really.

adrianxw
04-28-2002, 10:06 AM
Delphi is a really good RAD tool. The best book I've seen is the Delphi Unleashed book, but I don't know how up to date it is.

Davros
04-28-2002, 11:35 AM
> Delphi is a really good RAD tool

Yes it is. It's also a really good platform to write final apps. It's a shame that so many people think it's just for RAD.

There's also C++ Builder. This is C++ which shares the Delphi IDE and Visual Component Library (now called CLX I believe). This is now available for Linux also.

Cruxus
04-28-2002, 01:56 PM
Davros is right about Borland C++Builder (http://www.borland.com/bcppbuilder/). This product offers the same Visual Component Library and the same rapid-application-development IDE as Borland Delphi without the different language, Object Pascal. Why learn a new programming language, when C++ programmers can take advantage of all the functionality of Delphi in the language they already know? That is my reasoning for voting against learning Delphi, at least.

adrianxw
04-28-2002, 11:50 PM
>>>
It's also a really good platform to write final apps. It's a shame that so many people think it's just for RAD.
<<<

Errr, surely a RAD tool is for writing final apps quickly?

Davros
04-29-2002, 05:22 AM
> Errr, surely a RAD tool is for writing final apps quickly?

Yeh, your right. It's just that I've seen so many people who think Delphi is for prototyping, or for producing things quick & dirty. But to write a proper app you must do it in VC++.

(I'm not knocking VC++)