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vasanth
04-12-2002, 08:32 AM
The terrorist here is..

Barjor
04-12-2002, 09:53 AM
Very good pool. we all tend to go blind for things that is not in our closest sphere.

ihsir
04-12-2002, 11:02 AM
i just saw the poll results and saw 1 voting for India as the terrorists (ROFLMAO)

hope it isn't you Barjor ;)

vasanth:
India vs Pakistan isn't actually a good topic for pool everybody knows (or will know if they try to check up)

who the terrorists are,
where they live,
where they go into hiding,
where they get their money/finance from,
where they get MORAL support
etc etc

Barjor
04-12-2002, 11:12 AM
It could be...You know there always two sides of a story.

vasanth
04-12-2002, 11:17 AM
Ok i get it ihsir. But i just wanted to know what the world thinks about this..

Shiro
04-12-2002, 11:24 AM
I'm missing some options:

3. Both
4. I don't know

I would choose 4, since I do know very little about it.

>Bayern is out of the Champions League

Real was much better than Bayern. The German style is very efficient, but I like to see the Spanish, it's less efficient but more attractive. And Feyenoord is in the final of the UEFA cup!

ihsir
04-12-2002, 11:37 AM
>>It could be...You know there always two sides of a story
Sorry, not in this case :)

>>Real was much better than Bayern
>>but I like to see the Spanish,

::clap clap::
::2 beefy looking guards arrive::
GUARDS, FEED HIM TO THE LIONS

:D

Barjor
04-12-2002, 11:40 AM
So you claim that India is 100% inocent? I miss the "both" option

Shiro
04-12-2002, 11:47 AM
>The terrorist here is..

First explain what you mean with terrorist. If it's the same as with the Israelis and the Palestines, then I would say: both of them are terrorists, if a terrorist is someone who kills other people.


Well, well, Ihsir, you're a Bayern fan I assume?

ihsir
04-12-2002, 12:05 PM
>>So you claim that India is 100% inocent? I miss the "both" option .

well i'm replying to vasanth's question "the terrorist here is.."
and in this case it is Pakistan.


In an overall view both are guilty. The Indians will point to Pakistan and they to India.

but the country that has chosen the path of violence and that too terrorist attacks on civilians is - Pakistan.

Their military is nothing compared to India's (even admitted by their military leaders) and their power lies in doing random terrorist acts, thus they cannot afford any fullscale war and will most probably use their nukes if their is. ( this was said by their leader Pervez Musharraf)


>> what a terrorist is

any idiot who kills innocent civilians

what the so called Pakistan backed "KASHMIRI FREEDOM FIGHTERS" are doing, killing Kashmiris.. their own people. (and others ofcourse)


PS
maybe the BOTH and I DONT KNOW option should have been put there. hey maybe some nice mod could do that. :)

novacain
04-12-2002, 12:49 PM
Kashmir is a very, very beautiful place.

Pity your stay on the house boats is punctuated by shells flying over head.

I don't know who it belongs too but I wish you could share.

tim545666
04-13-2002, 12:21 AM
There's terrorists in every major country. Except maybe Canada. tose guys are too laid back to really care. But then again who the hell considers Canada a major country?

The US has had its share of terrorists. (Unibomber, Timothy McVeigh (sp?)...) Unless everyone is happy, there are going to be some radicals. And as long as there are radicals, there are people that will go too for to get what they want. A lot of those guys are terrorists.

I think "both" whould be added to the poll.

ygfperson
04-13-2002, 08:16 AM
before i say anything, i'm letting you know that i know next to nothing about this topic, and anything i say might just be utter bull****

it's a war, imho. india and pakistan are both at fault. being a teenager from america, i can't understand what makes people go to war over something so trivial. i credit india for ghandi's efforts, maybe in vain. i credit pakistan for its recent help with our war on terrorism.

so i'll flip a coin: heads -- india

vasanth
04-13-2002, 09:59 AM
What Bul*** help did pakistan give america. It did it on pressure. If it did not help it would have faced sanctions. And dont forget that all terrorist groups have a bse in pakistan. And also dont forget that wall street journalist Daniel pearl was killed by pakistanis in pakistan. And when Musharaf said he supported America the entire public in pakistan revolted against him. What does this show.. It shows that the people themself dont want to suppot america in punishing the terrorist. but musharaf did not have any choice..
You americans are always double minded.

vasanth
04-13-2002, 10:03 AM
And also dont forget that America has asked India to help it's economical assets the Oil Carriers passing through the Indian Ocean to be gaurded by our Navy. And we have agreed to it.... They asked this because they were afraid that the jehadi groups may target it.


And one more point
Why is it that when they destroyed the twin towers it was an act of terrorism but when the same jehadi group bombed our parliment in Delhi and assemble in Srinagar it was freedom fighting... You americans only see your benifit always..

vasanth
04-13-2002, 10:04 AM
Read the above post first..



If bombing our assets and country was freedom figghting.. Then isnt destroying twin towers is also freedom fighting( I think it is terrorism.. But according to the americans double view)

Commander
04-13-2002, 03:19 PM
What Bul*** help did pakistan give america. It did it on pressure.

>> at least they did something instead of resisting....



as i think, india's "war on terror" is just a attention graber of the modern western world.....when they saw (the PM (name starts with v..forgot the rest) and his cabinet and the ppl in India) that the western world has turned it's attention to their part of the world, but the only ppl that were getting the TV coverage was the pakistan and afgastan....but no india....so started their own terror fighting....I should say that it did work for the first few days, there were quite a few reports on the india's copy of the war on terror, but, after that...... I didn't c more of them.....and I still don't c them any more.....something dosen't seem right......y was that when us was on putting the full blow on the war in afganistan, some one blows up the PH.
Couldn't it have been fake...made up....all of us have seen in the middle east that some ppl blew themselvs up just to help their families to get money form the sponsers of the terror groups....couldn't it've happened in India that the government gave money to people to go and attack the PH so they could blame it on pakistan and put a bad image on it's head........if by any chance this happend....who would we call the terrorist then?....:confused:

It's only my opinion and i'm only saying that it could've happened.....

xlnk
04-13-2002, 03:20 PM
answering the question asked, i am going to say Pakistan is the terrorist.

India has not done anything to any other country terrorist wise, but on the same not Pakistan has not done anything to any other country terrorist wise. Its not the country that's the terrorist, its specific people in the country, ahh well thats another topic.

I have my money that Bin Laden has found refuge in Pakistan or either Afghanistan. Going against what I said earlier....This help that they are giving makes the country as a whole a terrorist, and as Bush said, "any country helping the terrorists is also classified as terrorists."

My parents are from India, I was born here. I know that India has not commited any terrorist act, for a fact.

and one other thing, we are viewed as terrorists to the terrorists who attacked the US. We mingled in their affairs, set our troops down in their country. Same way we view them as terrorists.

Commander
04-13-2002, 03:31 PM
I know that India has not commited any terrorist act, for a fact.
nobody knows that for sure.......terrorist acts isn't only just against a country......it could be against a perticular group. How do we know that india has never killed a gorup of ppl in it's history because of their belives....I don't think there's a way of knowing...

xlnk
04-13-2002, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by xlnk

India has not done anything to any other country terrorist wise, but on the same not Pakistan has not done anything to any other country terrorist wise. Its not the country that's the terrorist, its specific people in the country, ahh well thats another topic.


as I said before, India as a country has not, groups of people inside the country have, take for example the things going on right now in the state of Gujarat (where my parents are from), between the Muslims and the Hindus.

vasanth
04-13-2002, 09:09 PM
I agree with you
xlnk.. But Commander why do you think India will attack it's own country.. Foolish... Then can i say that america planed the destruction of the Twin Towers so that it could attack afganistan and Bin laden... Why do you americans play the double standard game.. you ought to think the same in all situations... And you guys believe an Army Comander who hijacked Democracy from his country government to the leaders of the worlds larghest democracy elected by it's people... FUnny fuinny.. May be you guys also want a coup in your country....


Well forget it.. I though that the americans were sensible enough to know what the truth is after all what happened.. Now i know that it is of no use arguing with you guys.. I think that is what even my country leaders found ouyt.. So now we have positioned out troops along the border and the pakis are loosing a hell a lot of money a day... WHich is peanuts to India... We dont go into pakistan to destroy them do we......

Well a caution for all country's Never believe America.. They will handel the situation in your country to their benifits.