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doubleanti
08-14-2001, 07:12 PM
i was thinking we should have some sort of contest, be it AI related or what not. webmaster, would you be so kind as to organize something to that extent?

Witch_King
08-14-2001, 08:31 PM
This is not a bad idea, but there has to be some considerations. It should not be so difficult so that only the most experienced programmers can compete. Also, the time allotted for the development of the program should be long enough so that College students can fit it into their schedule.

nvoigt
08-15-2001, 02:00 AM
Look up my Empire thread on the gaming board ;)

It's C#, but shouldn't be too hard.
Problem is I 'd have to create the rest
of the program first... and that can
take some time :(

Govtcheez
08-15-2001, 10:40 AM
Since we have so many varying skill levels, I also propose we have different divisions of it...

These would, of course, be up to the entrant to decide upon, since there's no real way to actually rate how you code. However, if it's obvious that someone doesn't belong in whichever bracket (nvoigt entering beginners level or something), whoever's running the contest could move them to an appropriate bracket.

Cheeze-It
08-15-2001, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by doubleanti
i was thinking we should have some sort of contest, be it AI related or what not. webmaster, would you be so kind as to organize something to that extent?
Set the deadline for December 31, 2001. That way, I'll
have time to learn stuff... :)

Govtcheez
08-15-2001, 10:56 AM
How about we set some guidelines before we set a deadline?

What about prizes?

What about limitations?

What do people normally do for programming contests?

no-one
08-15-2001, 11:04 AM
Why bother id just win all of them...:D so give it up already.:p

i usualy would not have time to do such a thing but it sounds like a good idea but since im startin college soon your almost guaranteed a chance to win so go for it...:D

ggs
08-15-2001, 11:50 AM
www.ioccc.org

see the rules & guidelines section

Govtcheez
08-15-2001, 01:22 PM
I dunno, those look a little strict...

I'm not thinking an obfuscated contest, just a good C contest.

I know SilentStrike has been in one, but I've never heard of any around here...

-KEN-
08-15-2001, 06:00 PM
Oh man, this is such a good idea. One can only do so much homework before he needs to whoop his peers' asses in a codin' contest! :p :p :p

you know it's true, don't deny it ;)

hmm....I guess the rules would be fairly simple; something like:

Keep code to the least amount of lines as possible, but 400~500 being the max. If there's some function that gets half the job done for you, you can't do it - therein lies the fun :D so like, if it's to reverse a string, you could'nt use strrev(). Also, there should be a different project for each level, but all having the same theme. So something like:

beginner~reverse a string without strrev()
intermediate~reverse 2 strings using recursion and no other loops
Uber Coder~reverse 3 strings using stacks, recursion, AND an alphabetical sorting algorithm, and no loops (besides the recursion :p )

Then have the deadline as whenever, and no late code accepted. The only problem is that we're all in different time zones...let's use Eastern time to make it easier on poor me. I'll setup the FTP stuff, you just FTP everything to the server that I setup, and use your name as the filename (and make it .txt, please. I don't want people to have to download all of the source. That way we can all view eachothers' code.

Oh yeah, and one last rule. If you do something like overwrite somebody's file to make them look bad, your vB account gets deleted, and you're outta the contest or something. (Remeber - FTP logs!! :) )

Witch_King
08-15-2001, 06:22 PM
For beginner programs you can give them some logic puzzle to figure out.

Intermediate programs would resemble an actual applications but console, but using advanced data types, for example (red-black trees).

Advanced programs would be an actual application using a graphics API such as a simple game or business application.

iain
08-16-2001, 07:54 AM
i like th idea. There doesnt have to be a prize but how about something like an Amazon voucher (com or uk depending on winner)

rick barclay
08-16-2001, 03:20 PM
How would the winners be determined?

rick barclay

Witch_King
08-16-2001, 03:58 PM
A Judge would have to decide the winners. Probably Judge Judy would be the best.

rick barclay
08-16-2001, 06:36 PM
>Probably Judge Judy would be the best.<

She's too mean. Since programming is a Man's
domain, the judge should be a Man.

rick barclay

DavidP
08-16-2001, 08:52 PM
>Since programming is a Man's
>domain, the judge should be a Man.

I bet CollegeGirl would object to that...

gamegod3001
08-16-2001, 09:33 PM
>I bet CollegeGirl would object to that...

She would.

Anyways I think Junge Mills Lane should be the Judge.

-KEN-
08-17-2001, 02:20 PM
How bout we let either the Webmaster or Witch_King decide (since we know he's Sunlight...)

Witch_King
08-17-2001, 04:52 PM
Witch_King = Sunlight = Mills Lane = Judge Judy = Your Mom

-KEN-
08-17-2001, 05:09 PM
Last time I checked my mom wasn't any of those people, but if she was sunlight that'd be cool. I mean, imagine:

"Hey, mom! What's wrong with this program?"

"you put the wrong class name into the CreateWindowEx function, dear."

:)

rick barclay
08-17-2001, 05:43 PM
We can finance the prizes by charging an entry fee.

We can look for sponsors who would post the entries
and perhaps add a little to the prize pot. My site
flashdaddee.com would certainly volunteer to
contribute anything that would get a little recognition
and a few hits. It would be no problem to set up
the formums necessary to view the entries.

Judges would have to be selected, and of course a
formal set of contest rules would have to be
written, agreed to and posted.

If we're lucky we could get the contest started by
Christmas.

A committee should be selected to draw up the rules
and judge the contest. Once a committee is selected,
they would have to correspond with each other about
the contest agenda. So who wants to volunteer to
be on the committee?

Nobody appointed me to organize this thing. These
are just suggestions.

rick barclay

-KEN-
08-17-2001, 06:32 PM
"...but if you use that, I'm going to want royalties...or I'll have to sue you, ken"

no-one
08-17-2001, 06:52 PM
i would have commited suicide long ago if my mom was judge judy... or died of self hate one...


have you seen her husband HE CALLS CHECKS WITH HER ABOUT EVERYTHING!!! she wears the pants in that family...