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mithrandir
09-17-2001, 12:28 AM
I know its in everyone's profile, but this poll would make it easier to see where everyone is.

Carlos
09-17-2001, 05:00 AM
Speaking of "all other european countries", you've enumerated only some of the western european ones :)
Of course, I don't expect to enumerate all european countries, but I'd like to see a more balanced list (e.g. take one of the western european countries -France-, and one of the (mid)eastern ones -Hungary-, another from north -Sweden- and one from South -Italy- and so on ).
Got it? ;)
:p

ober
09-17-2001, 05:52 AM
I think you might want to change the poll, seeing how "America" doesn't exactly provide an accurate choice... how about "USA"... or North America... or something like that... and you forgot anything from "South America".. not that it matters to me cuz I'm not from there, but I think you need to clarify..

Carlos
09-17-2001, 06:10 AM
Well, Stealth, it really stinks ;)
Next time take care ... and refresh your geographical knowledges :)

Natase
09-17-2001, 10:04 PM
In Stealth's defence...

Down here, on the other side of the world, America refers to North America and South America refers to... well...

Anyone from NZ or Australia would know what the poll meant

mithrandir
09-17-2001, 11:55 PM
<sarcasm>Well I'm sorry for being so geographically stupid. After all I'm just some hick from Australia y'know.</sarcasm>

Thanks Natase for your defence.

mithrandir
09-18-2001, 12:05 AM
Feel free to fix anything on this poll which may make it better than the complete **** up that I made of it.

kermi3
09-18-2001, 12:09 AM
Ok at stealth's request I've changed up some of the options to vote...if you really desperately need to change your vote now PM me with the change and I'll do it.

Betazep
09-18-2001, 01:41 AM
My wife would probably kill you if she saw that you put Sweden and didn't put Finland. (Come on... Nokia... Linux... Finland has big things. What does Sweden have? Good skiing... big t:D... beeped out for 'G' rating)

mithrandir
09-18-2001, 04:02 AM
This wasn't meant to be a thread saying which countries are important! **** me! God I just thought it would be interesting to see where people were from, not to start some ****ing goddamn AB country Vs XY country!

I know Betazep is only joking (at least I hope he is), but I'm already fed up with this thread.

Carlos
09-18-2001, 04:16 AM
Hehe, poor stealth... facing cultural, ethnical and geographical diversity ;)

You might have asked instead from which continent we are, ev. with some fine tuning.

mithrandir
09-18-2001, 04:20 AM
Sigh...::calms down::...yeah well I think I'll just forget about making polls for a while :)

nvoigt
09-18-2001, 04:21 AM
>America refers to North America

Yes, in Stealths defense... guys, you're too important.
For us you aren't the US. You are America.
Everything else has to get a name of it's own, you
are just America.

mithrandir
09-18-2001, 04:37 AM
This whole thing reminds me of a story my brother-in-law told me..

He is in the Australian Army as an Engineer, but he is also an Army Diver. Anyway they were doing an exercise somewhere once as part of his diving training. The US Army was also training in the same area, as part of a joint exercise. At once stage, my BIL's boat had to ask a US boat to move out of their current position as they needed to use that area. The US boat, named Delta, wouldn't respond, even after 10 mins of messages. An American came over the speaker and angrily said "We won't answer you unless you refer to us as Battleship Delta!" -- apparently the correct way to address any US Army naval vessel. Needless to say the Australian's cracked up into fits of laughter, as the US boat wouldn't have been anything larger than a fishing boat!

Carlos
09-18-2001, 04:41 AM
"Yes, in Stealths defense... guys, you're too important. "
...and Europe is kinda Disney-park :D
French fries, german cars, spanish Malaga, italian shoes, models from Poland, belgian beer, scotch whisky, irish music, hungarian food (and notation :D), swiss watch etc. - aren't we "too important", as well, NVOIGT ? Where can you find this cultural diversity ?

I think Europe has something special.
You travel 500 km-s, and got a good chance to meet 2-3 different cultures. Not speaking of our history. Just think about C. Columbus or Cptn. Cook and so on :).
Australians and americans might call this continent just ... Mother Europe.

nvoigt
09-18-2001, 04:47 AM
Oh yes, I just wanted to say that we don't call it the US.
If a German says "Amerika" it means USA, not America.
Our headlines are "America under attack", "America at war".

btw: I am from europe.

Carlos
09-18-2001, 04:58 AM
"I am from europe."
I knew it, you can bet on it! :D

Well, hungarians also say just America, speaking of the US. Just ...a little bit confusing, isn't it?

If somebody would say Europe thinking of France? ;)
It's all about national pride, and each nation has it.

mithrandir
09-18-2001, 05:08 AM
Well, hungarians also say just America, speaking of the US. Just ...a little bit confusing, isn't it?


How much do we need to clarify such a simple use of a term? Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.

America to an Australian or New Zealander means the United States of America. Not Canada, or Mexico, or South America.

Europe is a whole new ball game. Clearly there are vast differences between cultures in Europe. I wouldn't refer to an Irish person and a Hungarian as both European - that would imply they are both of the same culture. I would say the Irish person is from Ireland, and the Hungarian is from Hungary.

Carlos
09-18-2001, 05:18 AM
"Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. "
Ok, let's do it! :D


"I would say the Irish person is from Ireland, and the Hungarian is from Hungary."
...and you'd have about 60% to be right, as Hungary lost about 50% of his territory and population in World War II (Transylvania was the biggest part, which was attached to Romania).

About Ireland, you must probably know what's going on there :(.

Things are not so easy and self explanatory. Life and history is much more complicated.

mithrandir
09-18-2001, 05:29 AM
Well I am half Irish actually, so yeah I do know what's going on over there. Both the IRA and UFF are as bad as each other. Another problem which may never go away..

Govtcheez
09-18-2001, 05:56 AM
Ya wanna know what I think is the funniest thing about our America/US argument? It's being argued by an Australian, German, and a Hungarian. :) Sorry, I think it's funny...

Anyways, in general, America refers to the US, yeah. I think ober brought the thing up in the first place in case someone from Mexico or Argentina or smth didn't like it. Your "discussion" has been amusing, tho :)

mithrandir
09-18-2001, 06:19 AM
Well America throughout the 20thC has involved itself in most parts of the world - either through politics or capitalism - why can't we have a "discussion" about you yanks? :)

-KEN-
09-18-2001, 07:08 AM
Hehe, that is sorta funny, govt. Anyway, who really cares? Half the time when I'm referring to the US I just say America. I guess it's party because we're "Americans" not "United Stateans" Just like you don't refer to a Canadian as American, or a Mexican as American. That name is reserved for us! :)

Natase
09-18-2001, 05:48 PM
Australians and americans might call this continent just ... Mother Europe.

of course... but America, USA, the States, and most of North America went to a lot of trouble to not have to call this continent anything

doubleanti
09-18-2001, 11:03 PM
>Australian, German, and a Hungarian.

niice..... oh, where have you been carlos? hmmm... yeah, you realize that the states or... 'america' isn't really all of 'america'... and did you know that the term 'america' was named after amerigo vespucci? now you know that!

Carlos
09-19-2001, 01:39 AM
niice..... oh, where have you been carlos? hmmm... yeah, you realize that the states or... 'america' isn't really all of 'america'... and did you know that the term 'america' was named after amerigo vespucci? now you know that!
Sorry, doubleanti, you really don't need to teach me history.
Neither geography. Btw, there's a proof that vikings discovered the New World, so, it should be called err... New Denmark :D.

Btw, I don't understand why are you telling me all these ?
And your answer has nothing to do with the qoute "Australian, German, and a Hungarian. ", which isn't mine as well!.
Some troubles with your logic, or we are just not compatible, huh? ;)

Carlos
09-19-2001, 01:45 AM
of course... but America, USA, the States, and most of North America went to a lot of trouble to not have to call this continent anything
Of course, Natase, you surely mean Euro :).

Let's not start a war about who made trouble whom, as it might lead to unpredictable results :(.

Btw, your name (your nics at least) doesn't sound like a real english one, am I right (got a wild guess, if I'm wrong, I do apologize)?
Maybe you have some closer relation with the "old" continent... Why do you hate poor, old Europe? Please, don't be such a narrow-minded local-patriot.
:)

doubleanti
09-19-2001, 04:36 PM
sorry... didn't mean it that way... just a pointless fact o' day...

Natase
09-19-2001, 08:32 PM
Let's not start a war about who made trouble whom, as it might lead to unpredictable results .


erm... I believe this was a reply to your post on the same subject... don't see how either of us are enciting war exactly...

I was just trying be clever by writing all the different ways of speaking of North America...



Btw, your name (your nics at least) doesn't sound like a real english one, am I right (got a wild guess, if I'm wrong, I do apologize)?


As far as I know my nick isn't a real word in any language... just something I've used since BBS's were the norm... if it indeed does mean something in a foreign language I would be most interested to hear it :)



Maybe you have some closer relation with the "old" continent... Why do you hate poor, old Europe? Please, don't be such a narrow-minded local-patriot.


I was born in Wales (during my parents last-ditch effort at a world trip before I tied them down) and have lived in New Zealand since before I turned 1. I have therefore seen the world but was unfortunately too young to remember or appreciate it.

So... if you're through calling me names...........

Carlos
09-20-2001, 02:21 AM
"As far as I know my nick isn't a real word in any language... "

Natase is a romanian (male) name.

"So... if you're through calling me names..........."
Sorry, Natase, really didn't mean to offend you (hope, you don't think so, you know, hungarian temperament ;)), but I traced some cynism in your words -
"of course... but America, USA, the States, and most of North America went to a lot of trouble to not have to call this continent anything".

Are you from Wales? Is it true, that in welsh you call beer "crwrwr" ???? :D

Dissata
01-26-2002, 06:55 PM
that whole thing about the "battleship Delta" thing is kinda funny:D

and were named afer a map maker pathetic!:rolleyes: :D

zahid
01-26-2002, 10:25 PM
I'm from

BANGLADESH which is in South Asia.

My avatar is the Flag of Bangladesh.

Yoshi
01-26-2002, 10:27 PM
Admiral Yoshi's Base: Calgary, Alberta: where the next G8 convention (actually, near it.)

Yoshi!!

incognito
01-27-2002, 09:39 AM
Ok, as the poll asked before all this argument started. I am in the United States of America.


(one more prove why polls might turn around and kick you in your behind, it would have been a lot easier to just ask)

itld
01-27-2002, 12:23 PM
howdy,
OK lets get picky!
im from New Mexico, some folks would have you believe that New Mexico is actually part of Mexico and the Americans or is it the North Americans or is it the people from the USA have illegally ocupied this area and it should be refered to as Old Mexico.
then the indians or is that native americans, say it was thiers before it belonged to Mexico so it should be refered to as the indian nation.
it can get pretty complicated when you [STEALTH] ask a question of such huge proportions.:rolleyes:

Regards
M.R.

Govtcheez
01-28-2002, 09:18 AM
OK, I think this poll's been bounced up and kicked around enough....