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Invincible
03-24-2002, 02:33 PM
Here's some interesting news at gamespy. It just goes to prove that the future is an open market full of creative possiblilities. Where will technology be in 2010? Will Linux replace Windows as the common household OS? Will integrating Linux into the common market give common users more technical knowledge and saavy, or will it be glossed over and given an easy to use interface for ignorant users as does Windows.

http://www.gamespy.com/gdc2002/okamoto/index3.shtm

Brian
03-24-2002, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Invincible
Will Linux replace Windows as the common household OS?

Yes.

If people GET A ..........ING CLUE.

nvoigt
03-24-2002, 03:44 PM
People don't want to get a clue. People want an easy, working, preinstalled, standard system. And at the moment Windows is all that.

Brian
03-24-2002, 03:49 PM
Windows isn't standard. Windows works with, windows.

Linux works with almost anything you throw at it.

Aran
03-24-2002, 03:51 PM
i don't know about you people, but i'm going out and buying a converter as soon as it comes out. I'd like to have a PS2 AND a computer in one for only US$400.

-KEN-
03-24-2002, 06:39 PM
>>Will Linux replace Windows as the common household OS?

God no! The average Joe Schmoe doesn't give a flying rat's ass about Linux. People are scared to stray from windows. Right now it holds almost all of the cards for home users. It's got all the programs people are comfortable with and then some. The average joe has no clue how to use, nor cares to learn how to use anything in text mode. And if you wish to do quite a few things, you'd have to learn. Mr. Schmoe also could care less for Linux's less than gleaming (IMHO) GUI Shells, probably because they're not completely built into the OS, and aren't as easy to deal with as explorer.exe. I could go on and on, but it boils down to Linux will most likely never get anywhere NEAR windows' glory. Although I will admit, it's a fairly nice OS.

xlnk
03-24-2002, 06:45 PM
I would love to see linux out as a common household OS. That would be great!

But it also has a steep learning curve, and many people (cough...computer illiterate....cough) are not going to want to switch over to a whole different operating system.

Linux is meant for servers and high end corporations as of right now, and us computer gods, who know whats right. ;)

ygfperson
03-24-2002, 08:13 PM
what advantages does linux have over windows?
stability, at least over win95, win98, winme
customizability(if thats a word)
it's cross-platform
it's free, and so is most of its software

the average person is a person who doesn't know the difference between user name and full name. out of these advantages, which ones do they want?
stability, at least a tolerable amount
a free operating system, and free software

but are they willing to spend months learning to know enough to change the system time?

Invincible
03-25-2002, 01:01 AM
and us computer gods

Flattering. We're all extremely intelligent aren't we. :)

Now, I'm not the average user, but I've never experimented with Linux. Why? No need. Yes, Windows is much easier to use, but that doesn't make me ignorant. It makes me efficient. I like the GUI, it makes navigating the system painless.

Doesn't Redhat come with a GUI? If an intuitive GUI were developed for Linux, that would give it the market power it needs to be a competitive OS. But for now it seems that choosing Linux over windows (it seems, again I've never tried Linux) would be like choosing GCC when you have access to VC++.

I will eventually check out Linux when I have some free time though so I know what the heck I'm talking about :)

Another thing, don't underestimate the average user. As technology becomes increasingly more important in our society, the average user may become just as knowledgable about some things as the developers.

-KEN-
03-25-2002, 08:16 AM
>>it's cross-platform

How is an OS cross-platform? It IS the platform!

The linux GUI is nice, but I like explorer.exe about 70x better.

>> If an intuitive GUI were developed for Linux

They have an intuitive GUI, but it's just nowhere near as user-friendly as windows.

>>Another thing, don't underestimate the average user. As technology becomes increasingly more important in our society, the average user may become just as knowledgable about some things as the developers.<<

True enough, my grandma actually is getting fairly knowledgable about computers. She usually calls me up to help her out with things, and she explains things so perfectly I get amazed. Now if it were my mom telling me what's wrong it'd go something like: "...then, this boxy thing turned black. Is it supposed to turn black? So I got scared. I took the keyboard, and wrapped it in bubble wrap. Then I placed the monitor in the closet..."

taylorguitarman
03-25-2002, 12:08 PM
Here's an article I enjoyed reading.
http://caffeine.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/aug01/speak.html

Syneris
03-25-2002, 08:01 PM
you just said the magic word!
***USER-FRIENDLY***
let me ask you a few things, why do ppl buy automatic transmission cars when they cost more and generally get lower gas millage? Manual/Standard/Stick-shift cars are better for numerous reasons, but ppl pay more for convience. What about restraunts & fastfood? You pay much higher prices going out to eat someplace than you would if you made the food yourself, and if you are a good cook it may even be better.
The average everyday person wants things easy and simple.

Aran
03-25-2002, 10:04 PM
the american wants instant gratification. ANything that isn't now is too late or is poorly made or planned. It's the 21st century, we should practically not have to move anymore. Science is falling behind.

syntactic_sugar
03-26-2002, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Invincible
Here's some interesting news at gamespy. It just goes to prove that the future is an open market full of creative possiblilities. Where will technology be in 2010? Will Linux replace Windows as the common household OS? Will integrating Linux into the common market give common users more technical knowledge and saavy, or will it be glossed over and given an easy to use interface for ignorant users as does Windows.

http://www.gamespy.com/gdc2002/okamoto/index3.shtm

2 bills (http://www.us.playstation.com/product_detail/product_detail.jhtml?PRODID=337933&CATID=405) for that ps2 kit too, not bad..

Hillbillie
03-26-2002, 10:07 PM
Linux as a household OS? Uh, no. Why would you even think it could be? Is it because you think it's better? Even if it was, it wouldn't matter. MS has all the OEM's balls in a vice grip. Add in the fact that the average Joe (like Ken said) doesn't care about Linux, you've got Windows being the household OS for a loooong time. Of course, this is as if Linux was the best... :cool:

And just for the record, if I _had_ to use Windows or Linux, it'd be Windows. :p Thank God there's other OS's to choose from, though. :D

Invincible
03-30-2002, 03:19 PM
Is it because you think it's better?
No, I've never even used it. I'm just curious about what's in store for the future of computing. As a developer, this is important to me.

Hillbillie
03-30-2002, 03:51 PM
I wasn't directing it at you, Invincible. It was meant for Brian really (I think - can't remember. :)).

CompiledMonkey
03-30-2002, 11:30 PM
We'll never see Linux as the main household OS. I like Linux and use it often, but Windows is just easier to use for most people so they will not abandon it. Maybe if Linux had been what it is now ~7 years ago we could be having a different discussion. ;)