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zeckensack
03-23-2002, 09:13 AM
Read about the latest and most sickening episode of 'computer destruction legislation' to be evaluated in the US.
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,51274,00.html

Summary: You write code? You debug code? You use code? Well, if this law ever passes, you're a criminal.

-KEN-
03-23-2002, 09:41 AM
>>Even programmers who distribute their code for free would be prohibited from releasing newer versions -- unless the application included federally approved technology.<<

Heh, what if you wrote a compression scheme noone had seen before, would you be arrested?:p

Oh yeah, but it does kinda suck...it only hits small-time coders really, big companies would barely feel any effects. Heh, can't you just see it now? "Hello? FCC? Yeah, I wanted to post some code on cprogramming.com, can I have your approval on it?" :p

-KEN-
03-23-2002, 09:50 AM
Oops, looks like I was right:


"I would expect the Disney studio to argue that either downloading or posting code that doesn't adhere to the security system standard transports the code" -- and would therefore be unlawful, Litman said.

So either we all find out their phone number, or you backwards people from other countries won't get any more American help :)

Govtcheez
03-23-2002, 11:50 AM
What about the stuff I make for school?

To hell with this law.

Unregistered
03-23-2002, 11:54 AM
Y'see!! Americans do the maddest things.

'nuff said.

C_Coder
03-23-2002, 11:57 AM
And the western world is supposed to be the free world!!!
I'm gonna move to the middle east.

nvoigt
03-23-2002, 01:27 PM
So basically the US erects a large firewall ? You mean like China ?

;)

American laws don't apply to the net. German laws don't apply to the net. Regulating the net with laws that come from one country only is doomed to fail, or create islands of censorship like China.

I like those laws from people that have no clue. A German politician brought up a design where porn sites have to serve only after 22:00 hours, just like porn films on tv. I'm not sure if anyone told him that my 22:00 isn't your 22:00 on the net :p

Brian
03-23-2002, 01:34 PM
What the ..........? I'm glad Linux does not come from America, because the government sucks Bill's dick.

Cheeze-It
03-23-2002, 01:44 PM
Sorry, I'm somewhat slow... How much of an effect,
if any, will this have on the game I'm currently
making?

ygfperson
03-23-2002, 01:54 PM
i don't think it's possible. it's impossible to enforce and unconstitutional. it's like a stamp act on all code...

SilentStrike
03-23-2002, 02:03 PM
This isn't about Bill, he doesn't give a **** what you do with your OS, as long as it's windows and you bought it. It's about the record companies, the movie companies, etc. They want you to stop stealing their songs, their movies.

Sorensen
03-23-2002, 02:03 PM
What if someone creates a compiler/vm that takes English as it's code?

dirkduck
03-23-2002, 02:59 PM
Heh, when they come knocking at my door because i didnt't follow that law, im gonna give em the finger, and when they make me pay 500,000$ im gonna move to England ;). But seriously, that law is a load of crap. I doubt that they would pass it. Kinda reminds me of that one that you can only run government approved software (like only microsoft OS's), what ever happened to that one? They called it 'policeware'.

ygfperson
03-23-2002, 03:38 PM
What if someone creates a compiler/vm that takes English as it's code?you mean BASIC? :D

taylorguitarman
03-23-2002, 04:35 PM
Reading the articles relating to the story helps a bit to put things in perspective. I think the idea behind copy protection is a good idea but this bill extends itself a bit too far. The hardware industry is also going to have a say in this matter and they're much bigger than the entertainment industry. Ultimately, they're the ones that will have to implement all of the security measures, which will most likely mean compatibility problems with current technology. The general public isn't going to be very keen on buying new equipment (probably expensive too) just so they can use the "copy protected" media (which will probably cost more).
It's scary that something like this can even get this far.
I think a great deal of this stems from the public feeling ripped off (an issue that seems to be ignored).
I agree with the right to prevent copyrighted material from being pirated, but we must be very careful not to step on the rights of consumers (like the right to make a cassette tape from a CD you bought so you can listen to it in your walkman, or listen to the CD on your computer).
We also have to be careful not the hinder the growth of technology.
I think this bill stomps on both.
Plus, no matter what kind of technology they come up with, someone will think of a way around it.
It's time to come up with a solution to why this happening rather than coming up with expensive ways to restrict people from doing it.

incognito
03-23-2002, 04:55 PM
I say we create an artificial island or like a big ship and all move there and just travel to sea that way there's no law against anything............



Ok perhaps I've been online too long..........