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no-one
02-21-2002, 02:04 PM
sorry for my absense lately i'm pretty ill, but i still read the news and thought you should hear this.

BTW: MS admits it in this article so this is no BS.

http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40495-2002Feb20.html

im ........ed you should be too, MS without telling its customers has been gathering data about you and is considering wether or not to sell it! WTF!

ober
02-21-2002, 02:33 PM
I heard this one on the radio this morning too... they (M$) are openly admitting that they do this... I'm not the only one that's ........ed apparently... they can even track whether you are using pirated music and whatnot... what a croc...

I'll be damned if I ever use Media Player while connected to the net again!

Brian
02-21-2002, 03:04 PM
OH NOS!!!11 M$ IS SELLANG OUR STUFF TO ADVARTISING!!11


This is happening already, what the hell do you think .NET is?

-KEN-
02-21-2002, 04:17 PM
>>what the hell do you think .NET is?

That comment wreaks (sp?) or stupidity.

Hmmm...it doesn't seem too shocking or terrible, but it definately could be used to tear your privacy to shreds. (Note to self: Quit watching porn with windows media player. ;) :p)

ober
02-21-2002, 04:39 PM
>(Note to self: Quit watching porn with windows media player. )

Ken, you crack me up... ROFLMAO...

(Note to self: Follow Ken's advice) ;)

Brian
02-21-2002, 04:45 PM
Why do you need to enter so many details into the .NET Passport? So they can further your entertainment experience?

incognito
02-21-2002, 04:48 PM
Microsoft really gets on my nerves at times!!!!!!!!!

Brian
02-21-2002, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by elchulo2002
Microsoft really gets on my nerves at times!!!!!!!!!
Indeed, I also do not particularly enjoy multiple exclaimation marks, although they are acceptable, I believe a single exclaimation mark is sufficiant for any comment.

dirkduck
02-21-2002, 05:57 PM
Damn MS. I ahte when companies ask you for a lot of personal info when its not needed (i.e. hotmail)

no-one
02-21-2002, 07:23 PM
>This is happening already, what the hell do you think .NET is?

i know what it is, and ask anybody im openly against it.

any the thing that buggs me is they didn't tell anybody this raises questions!

how long have they ben doing this? what else that you do do they moniter? where do they draw the line in privacy? and what the hell are they thinking? "you can always turn it off, after we tell you its there.hehehe", "we are focusing on security and trustibility"? WTH!

novacain
02-22-2002, 12:56 AM
Live in the US? Got a phone with Quest or AT&T?

"An appeals court has ruled unconstitutional privacy protections that require phone companies to obtain the consent of a subscriber before using their phone records for marketing purposes. The anti-privacy decision is inconsistent with previous constitutional tests of privacy laws such as the Fair Credit Reporting Act. The suit was brought by US West, which like many telcos wants to be able to make money from consumer data without getting permission from the people concerned. In a dazzlingly self-serving piece of corporate doublespeak, the company called the decision "definitely consumer friendly" because it allows the company to offer new services more efficiently. Junkbusters President Jason Catlett retorted that under this logic "a burglar might call his thieving ``homeowner-friendly'' because it makes consumers' homes feel more spacious and is more efficient than removalist services." [NY Times]"
You can opt-out, but your info is sold to the telemarketers within 24hrs of registering your phone, so be quick.

Goes with GB jr's new 'sneek and peek' search. (can enter your property, search, copy info then leave, all without telling you)

Or with GB jr's new martial order which allows you to be detained incomunicado, indefinately with no rights or legal representation. Until you can be tried under martial law in a miltary court and possibly executed.

Or our (Aust) section 54b. More than three people meeting in a public place can be deemed a protest rally and you need a permit for a protest rally so you can be arrested.

Or our 'proceeds of crime' legislation. Can confiscate all property if suspected that it was bought / obtained with illegal funds _before_ conviction in court. Makes it very hard to defend yourself with no money. Also implies guilt if appear in court after all assets confiscated.

We are allowing this to happen. Time to put up or shut up.

ygfperson
02-23-2002, 11:38 AM
Goes with GB jr's new 'sneek and peek' search. (can enter your property, search, copy info then leave, all without telling you)
i think you're overreacting. anything congress or the president does can be declared unconstitutional by the supreme court. the bill of rights forbids search without a warrant. it's not easy to get a warrant.

Or with GB jr's new martial order which allows you to be detained incomunicado, indefinately with no rights or legal representation. Until you can be tried under martial law in a miltary court and possibly executed.
this is also prohibited by the bill of rights. citizens can't be detained without rights. the detainees at camp x-ray aren't citizens. i don't agree with the lack of POW status, though. citizens can get legal representation, for free if necessary. they cannot be tried under a military tribunal because they are citizens. period.

i can't argue with austria's new laws because i don't know how your government works.

Xterria
02-23-2002, 09:35 PM
I bet this means they have hundreds of files of me screaming into the microphone :p

Brian
02-23-2002, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Xterria
I bet this means they have hundreds of files of me screaming into the microphone :p

Why do you scream into your microphone?

The best way to handle computer rage is to throw your monitor out of your window. Or drop your laptop down the stairs (that was an accident, an expensive accident.)

Brian
02-23-2002, 09:50 PM
I think it's funny that the FBI use Windows to spy on people.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/carnivore.htm

novacain
02-24-2002, 08:33 PM
>>the bill of rights forbids search without a warrant. it's not easy to get a warrant.

Its a new type of search warrant. Not hard to get if the FBI / CIA says "Terrorist!".

>>this is also prohibited by the bill of rights. citizens can't be detained without rights.

Not anymore.

These changes have been rushed thru by congress as a result of Sept 11th. Weren't you paying attention?

Its Australia not Austria.

The Geneva convention, which the US is a singnatory, states that all people arrested in a battlefield, wearing a uniform or not, MUST be held under its terms until a GENERAL, not military, court decides their fate. You have had one of our citizens prisoner for three months now in an open cell, lit 24/7. You are yet to charge him or allow his lawyers to vist. Because he is not one of YOUR citizens you can do what you want to him?
He would of been released last month to Australia, but according to 'The Australian' newspaper, we could not _guarantee_ a conviction so he is still held!

Next time a US soldier gets captured lets see the furore in the US that ensures when they are not treated in accordance to the convention.

In my opinion it would be expedient to treat the Al Queda members better, than have Al Queda treat US/British/Australian/New Zealand servicemen very badly.

golfinguy4
02-24-2002, 08:55 PM
I thought that they should treat them under the Geneva Convention too. However, Bush isn't too bright.

P.S. It is rumored that he (Bush) got around a 900 on the SAT's.