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EVOEx
01-01-2009, 05:43 AM
Hello all,

I've recently taken up a new hobby of reverse engineering computer programs (in Windows). I don't like breaking copying protections or anything, that's usually too easy. But I came to like reversing malware (virusses, trojans, worms, etc).
However, using Linux and GMail, I don't have any malware. I've found one on a computer I was fixing last time, but I finished with that one. Does anyone have some malware they are willing to share (preferably an executable file, preferably Windows)? It doesn't matter how you got it; e-mail or quarantined by your virusscanner. I'd like some that are new, maybe even unknown, but I don't expect I can get them so I'll settle for older malware as well.
If you do have it, I think the best method to upload is some free file uploader (like http://www.uploading.com/ even though I haven't tried it).

Thanks in advance,
EVOEx

zacs7
01-01-2009, 05:49 AM
If one makes a virus available on the web, but clearly labels it as such so that people downloading the file are aware of what they are getting into, can the distributor be held accountable? The consensus is that if the file is labeled then the person will probably not face criminal charges, although he or she may be sued for damages. The distributor could also potentially be charged under "incitement", for encouraging illegal behavior. The distribution of viruses via newsgroups and e-mail lists is easier to prosecute because these media practically force viruses onto people who do not know what they are receiving.


No thanks :-). You can find the crap everywhere... where I work I see many, many new viruses so I'm in no short supply. Just find a job at an internet cafe or computer repair place.

EVOEx
01-01-2009, 06:04 AM
No thanks :-). You can find the crap everywhere... where I work I see many, many new viruses so I'm in no short supply. Just find a job at an internet cafe or computer repair place.

Wow. That is the stupidest law I've ever seen. Seriously, cigarettes can be deadly. So they put that on the packets - to which I completely agree - does that mean they should still get sued should someone have decided to smoke and died because of it? Same for gun manufacturers..?
Does the law actually use the word virus? That wouldn't make the same hold for trojans or worms, which are both not virusses.

I understand that most people don't want to send it with such a stupid law in place. So, maybe someone living in another country? ;) Where it is not illegal to send it (myself, I am Dutch, and I think it's legal here).

I used to have a job in a computer repair place, and yes, virusses came on every single PC. But I have to say, I'm glad I got rid of such a boring job... I do once in a while make a repair - which is where I found my last virus...
Unfortunately, there are not many resources for malware on the web. I've googled a lot, found nothing really good. But I guess that's because of that law...


Thanks for your reply

stevesmithx
01-01-2009, 07:11 AM
Hello all,

I've recently taken up a new hobby of reverse engineering computer programs (in Windows). I don't like breaking copying protections or anything, that's usually too easy. But I came to like reversing malware (virusses, trojans, worms, etc).
However, using Linux and GMail, I don't have any malware. I've found one on a computer I was fixing last time, but I finished with that one. Does anyone have some malware they are willing to share (preferably an executable file, preferably Windows)? It doesn't matter how you got it; e-mail or quarantined by your virusscanner. I'd like some that are new, maybe even unknown, but I don't expect I can get them so I'll settle for older malware as well.
If you do have it, I think the best method to upload is some free file uploader (like http://www.uploading.com/ even though I haven't tried it).

Thanks in advance,
EVOEx
Well, unless we have security experts or crackers here, i would very much doubt anyone have a virus here. [Who would want to have viruses on their computer anyways? :p]
What for do you want to reverse engineer a virus?.

EVOEx
01-01-2009, 09:00 AM
Well, unless we have security experts or crackers here, i would very much doubt anyone have a virus here. [Who would want to have viruses on their computer anyways? :p]
What for do you want to reverse engineer a virus?.

Actually, a lot of people have it, I think ;). It may arrive by mail or quarantined by your virus scanner - often it's not removed (at least Norton Antivirus quarantines it).

Why reverse engineer a virus? Well, for fun and to learn. I can reverse engineer huge, complex programs, but often the result isn't all that interesting. You know what it does, and the most interesting thing you can find out about it is a security flaw.
Malware, on the other hand, often has anti-reversing techniques you'll have to fix your way around. Sometimes it has instructions that make no sense until after studying it for a very long time. Besides, not all information on malware is often known.
So it's really quite a challenge, and really informational.

In my opinion, real challenges are hard to find nowadays. But I found a new one in reversing...

laserlight
01-01-2009, 09:05 AM
Prepared to err on the side of caution, I am closing this thread. If anyone is really dying to send EVOEx malware, contact EVOEx via PM and then make the arrangement and transfer via some other channel.