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boingy_man
02-14-2002, 11:53 AM
Ok, the great question since the north forced its culture on the south:

Is it a word?

Govtcheez
02-14-2002, 11:57 AM
> the north forced its culture on the south:

!!!

"Y'all" came from the north? I doubt that...

It's a contraction, so it's as much a word as, well, it's.

ober
02-14-2002, 01:12 PM
definately a word.. but it definately came from the south... it's part of southern drawl and leaked into the north...

I doubt anyone outside the US would really know what that means tho.. ?

incognito
02-14-2002, 02:31 PM
I don't think it's a word is just a contraction of two words.

-KEN-
02-14-2002, 04:24 PM
Of course, it's the best word!

And someone told me they added it to the dictionary? I doubt it, though.

ygfperson
02-14-2002, 04:41 PM
hell, why not?
rap and country music uses it. that's the widest range possible.

gnu-ehacks
02-14-2002, 09:54 PM
LoL, it's considered a word...Where I'm from though, we consider it "ghetto", and I'm Chinese so it would be wierd to talk ghetto with my background.

boingy_man
02-14-2002, 11:17 PM
They did put it in the Dictionary. It is there, I guess the question is whether it should be used?

I say YES!

tim545666
02-14-2002, 11:36 PM
If you actually use that word, you are either ghetto or redneck.

Yoshi
02-15-2002, 06:00 PM
Bands always contract words nowadays to fit their rhythm scheme...

sean
02-15-2002, 08:28 PM
And won't is spelled with an apostrophe. Would someone who is an English teacher like to explain, WHAT THE HECK THAT MISSING LETTER IS? Or is it just something the British made up to confuse everybody?

sean
02-15-2002, 08:29 PM
PICKLE?

Well Okay then......

DrakkenKorin
02-15-2002, 09:08 PM
Being from the south (S TX to be exact) I have to throw my nicke in on this one.

Yes, "Y'all" is a word. I believe it came around because people had a hard time understanding that "you" can be both in the singular and plural case (just not at the same time, either/or). Well I reckon (ha!) that to help them better understand and see the difference between the singular and plural (not pleural) forms, "Y'all" was developed and implemented and was understood to take on the plural form of you, or You all (can be read as all of you).

There, don't yall feel better knowing that !

:D

Brian
02-16-2002, 12:03 PM
won't is derived from wiln't (will not), so the missing letter is an O.

dbaryl
02-16-2002, 12:06 PM
"Y'all"? That is as much a word as "haven't", "won't", or "ain't"... I really don't think that it should be thought of as one word, but then again...

Is "haven't" one word then? :confused:

Brian
02-16-2002, 12:10 PM
I think y'all are taking this too seriously :D

Cruxus
02-16-2002, 01:34 PM
Y'all is a word that is really a contraction of two words: you all. I do not consider y'all to be acceptable for formal, written or spoken American English; but I suppose it would be acceptable for informal usage in the South or in the "ghetto." I do not use y'all in my informal speech because my dialect has offerred a non-Southern, non-Ebonics alternative: you guys. You guys functions as the informal, second-person, plural pronoun in my dialect. Another example of an alternative to either y'all or you guys is yous, which was more common, maybe, fifty years ago, at least in Saint Louis, Missouri. Personally, I dislike hearing y'all used as it has an air of rustic unsophistication or lower-class, urban illiteracy.

Historically, English you was the plural, second-person pronoun; but, replacing thou, it gradually became the singular, second-person pronoun as well. Now that you is most commonly associated with a singular antecedant, it has become necessary for English dialects to develop a new second-person, plural pronoun: The South and Ebonics has offerred y'all; other areas have offerred you guys (it can even function for a group consisting entirely of women); and the past had offerred yous (pronounced like "yooz"; IPA /juz/).

Sean wrote:


And won't is spelled with an apostrophe. Would someone who is an English teacher like to explain, WHAT THE HECK THAT MISSING LETTER IS? Or is it just something the British made up to confuse everybody?


The dictionaries tell us that won't is a contraction that developed from an alternative form of will not: woll not, which is now extinct.