View Full Version : IE 6 is actually scary...

01-31-2002, 11:24 PM
Because IE 6 is made by Microsoft, they can recklessly goes into your windows folder and make a mess. If you crash your IE, it crashes the Task Bar for you. IE 6 is practically a spyware.


02-01-2002, 01:32 AM
Use Netscape then.

02-01-2002, 02:19 AM
Opera is another option.

02-01-2002, 02:28 AM
>>If you crash your IE, it crashes the Task Bar for you. IE 6 is practically a spyware.

When IE crashes and your task bar disapears. then I think it is explorer.exe that crashes. IE explorer is only an other front for explorer(I think) they are all based on the same program.
if you kill the explorer.exe process, the IE explorer , task bar and those things will disapear. that is why I think they are all related to eachother. It doesn't mess with your system, it is the same program.

02-01-2002, 03:06 AM
>>Use Netscape then.
>>Opera is another option.

Obviously you two haven't tried these alternatives.
As unfairly biased as I am against Microsoft I have to admit IE is about the best browser you can get.

02-01-2002, 05:45 AM
Actually I have Opera installed, as well as Netscape 6.2. Netscape is superior to IE, but there are too many damn websites made with (you guessed it) MS Front Page, which look crap in Netscape. Opera is the fastest web browser around.

02-01-2002, 01:52 PM
i totally agree - i think netscape is a horrible clunky piece of trash! Im not microsofts biggestfan but IE is thebest browser you can get! Ver5.5 - i dont really like 6

02-01-2002, 02:11 PM
Nutscrape v3 was a good little browser. Nutscrape also had some great ideas. For example...

1. Layers! I once wrote a web page that had two layers to it. Images below, text on top. Worked really well! Just imagine what you could ddo with layers and php / stylesheets?

2. Columbs. You caould opena text file, and display it in columns. Realy easy to use as well..

<colum width=2, gutter=.50>

or something like that. Pitty there are no real standards on the net. I eagerly awaited nutscrape 6..... but it was suha dissapointment. The horrid big looking thing at the top they call a nev bar, and that menu screen on the left, that, no matter how hard you try, cant get rid of it completly. IE though works very well..... i like the fact that i can simply open my folder.... and then broswe from it etc... I also like the fact it goes full screen.

I last looked at Opera 2 years ago. I'm sure its very good.... but i just dont like the way everything opens in differnt windows..... looks like a windows 3.1 applet!

Oh well..... guess we'll have to write our own guys! one that uses both nutscrape and Internet exploiter codes... !

Oi, o forgot to say that IE 6 is just pants! as i dont have XP (and i ask myself why anyone would want a cartoon for an OS?) ie6 doesn;t look very goood on my machine. Also, i see M$ have maneged to tie in MSN (pronounced ms sin), and hotmail (pronounced...... err, hotmail i beileve!)

02-01-2002, 03:34 PM
Why IE???
The Internet Explorer just don't care about Standards...
Everytime I develope a Website I get ........ed off by IE!

It hardly displays correct HTML correct (if you know what I mean) - espacially version 6!

Why does Microsoft not support the HTML Standard?

Opera and Mozilla are (IMHO) the best Browser you can get!

They are handy, fast and they support nearly the entire HTML Standard!

02-01-2002, 03:45 PM
I have recently gone to Opera exclusively and I must say I am extreamly impressed.....

I love the Multi Document display and auto popup killer.....

One slight gripe is the formatting of certain pages (such as with Vb Boards)......but that is nothing when weighed against the main benefit - Stability.

I havent had one crash yet on either my works PC (Win98) or my home PC (Win2K)...... The one time I used Internet explorer this week was tonight cuz I had a Windows Update and M$ likes IE ;)

Would you believe it? IE crashed!!!!! 1 use in a week and it blew out!!

02-01-2002, 04:00 PM
Anyone noticed how much Opera looks like the NCSA Mosaic...?:) Not to mention IE was based off of the mosaic...too bad they didn't keep developing that thing...it's kinda cool. Has MDI support just like opera. Just doesn't work with any new markups or scripting langs.

02-01-2002, 04:13 PM
This might be alittle bit of a side track but is there anyone more then me that feals like you don't own or control your puter when you surf anymore. There os poppup adds that I never approved to run on my puter. There is some sites that even installs software on your hdd. etc etc..It feals like a pretty serious violation.I know I can just stop vistiting the internet and problem is solved.If opera have a poppup add stoper I am changing browser.

02-01-2002, 07:04 PM
I have Opera, but not Netscape. I use NS only in Linux. Opera is the best one, except for the ad.

IE is by M$, so they can change your registry easily.

02-01-2002, 07:23 PM
>Because IE 6 is made by Microsoft

LOL. You honestly think it was made by Microsoft? They steal code from everybody...just look at IE's about box...it says who they got code from.

02-02-2002, 08:50 AM
i've just noticed that, whilst all this is going on.... i'm using Lynx on RedHat to test my apache instalation!


ps: does anyone have screen shots of Opera?

02-02-2002, 10:09 AM
Here's a brief look at my Opera.

You will note that there arent many bookmarks cuz I havent used it long :)

02-02-2002, 01:39 PM
I use OffByOne internet browser, best of all it doesn't fill your drive with temp or history files!! Get it atwww.offbyone.com (http://www.offbyone.com) .

02-02-2002, 05:59 PM
Well whilst I have to admit that all these other browsers are better, faster and smarter than ie, the problem is that most web desigers pretty much assume your using ie. Thats why i stopped using opera, at the time it didn't even have a flash plugin (i don't even know if it has one now).

02-02-2002, 06:18 PM
Yes it does have a flash plugin and also the applet viewing works straight off with no problems too (1 up on IE from my experiences).

02-02-2002, 06:21 PM
Here's a list of my plugins with opera;

02-02-2002, 08:24 PM
That's still no match for the list of plugins with just the defualt install of internet explorer.

02-03-2002, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by shtarker
That's still no match for the list of plugins with just the defualt install of internet explorer.

Jeez..what the hell more do you want? :)

I have Flash, Acrobat, Java2....and...erm Windows Media Player (Which I must admit shocked me more)....

One thing I dont have is tons of vicious spyware.

02-03-2002, 06:54 AM
>>One thing I dont have is tons of vicious spyware.

That is a plus.
And now i know that it does actually have some support i'v redownloaded and am using it again.

02-03-2002, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by shtarker
>>One thing I dont have is tons of vicious spyware.

That is a plus.
And now i know that it does actually have some support i'v redownloaded and am using it again.

You like the spyware?....well that's your concern, but I dont want any organisation to have more power over my brower and internet access than me....and using IE takes away my choice to choose. I want to build a full email app this year as a project........as soon as it is in a workable form.....kiss goodbye to Outlook Express too.

02-03-2002, 03:08 PM
Uhhh I was talking about opera.
You don't have to download ie, it just magicly appears on your computer with windows.
But this board looks funny in opera, the coloums aren't straight any more

02-03-2002, 03:13 PM
:: smacks head ::

Sorry shtarker, I didnt read your post properly.

02-03-2002, 11:53 PM
I use opera 90% of the time when browsing the web. It's the best browser around, IMO. Highlight a word, and you have the option to select "dictionary", which takes you right to the definition in an online browser. There is also a google bar, making web searches very easy. Finally, the mouse gestures make going back and forth so easy, especially with a large resolution. Going backwards doesn't require touching the keyboard or scrolling to the back button anymore.

02-04-2002, 01:14 AM
Ok you've won me over.
Opera is a much better browser then ie could ever hope to be.
A lot more though and effort has gone into it yet and I do really like the mouse gestures.