Thread: Gender and Language

Originally Posted by Yarin

Religion is the backbone of everyone's opinion, and cannot be called crap.

No, but but forcing your religious beliefs upon someone else is.

Originally Posted by citizen

However, Elysia is both unwilling to look at things from another point of view on this particular issue and very much addressing the wrong crowd. We should have stopped talking about this a while ago.

This isn't about convincing each other that one way is right or wrong. It's a discussion.

Originally Posted by Yarin

Well, I brought up the wrong point, I really think male should be default because of tradition, not just religion.
And I don't see how it's intellectually bankrupt. Please enlighten me.

Originally Posted by Neo1

I agree with this though, it's called MANkind because that's the way it has always been, it has nothing to do with sexism or anything like that...

The problem to me seems that because it's been default for so long, you see no need to change it. So why should exactly males be default? What's the point?
Tradition has it that male is default because women were considered lower beings than men, which obviously we will all agree now is wrong.
It just seems to me you are unwilling to change to a new view in a new century which is much different from when tradition was made?
Is it so, or am I completely off track?

Originally Posted by Wraithan

...So you say you don't want to offend people by using the wrong gender in online discussion where it isn't commonly seen as a big deal. Then you take something that is close to peoples hearts and say it is crap?

Neo1, yeah, I have heard that song too, and heard that before, Religion is the opium of the people, but even those who 'aren't religious' are religious about being non-religious and might as well be just another faction on the deity battlefield.

No, I take offense at defending the use of "he" as neutrality based on some fictious facts of religion. Yes, I will admit I'm am atheist, and therefore I take big offense at people saying "males were created before females" or "male should be default because they were created first" or "because god is a he" or the like.
I can accept good arguments, but never from religion. That's because you can't force a religious belief onto someone else. Religion is not facts. There is no evidence. And as such I cannot accept it a good argument.
And that is all.