i ended up just printing out the VBE 3.0 spec myself [doublesided]

why is it so expensive to print it at other places? I can understand the binding, but any two-digit cent charge per page is outrageous... [btw i had it on pdf] www.vesa.org

oh, and with my newly printed power, i'll be able to get better support for you guys okay? well that'll do it... good bye...