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    Baaad news for me

    First of all, good to see you again. I haven't been here for quite a while.

    The baaad news is that Russians are destroying everything in Estonia's capital Tallinn. They are burning houses, cars, destroying everything, making fires on the streets etc.
    It all started because Estonian government decided to move a Soviet Union monument to another place. It was just decided to move to another place, not to destroy it nor anything.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6597497.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6255051.stm
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBC
    Russia, which does not agree that the Soviet Union occupied Estonia, has suggested that it is symptomatic of a rebirth of fascism in Estonia.
    I'll give you a short summary of Estonian history:
    Estonia was under Soviet occupation from 1939-1991. It was taken under Soviet control by invading it with hundreds of tanks and hundred thousands of soldiers. Many Estonians were killed.
    In 1941 and in 1945 they deported 1/20 of Estonians to Siberia, 3/4 of Estonians had their close relatives deported, 2/3 of the deported people died there...

    I just wanted people to know about it, because Russia has been denying everything and they've been good at it, because they have power.

    THIS IS SICK!
    Last edited by maxorator; 04-26-2007 at 02:57 PM.
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    Sorry.

    I guess that is the kind of thing that makes Americans still pretty good.

    Good to hear from you again though.

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    The Soviet Union monuments should be destroyed..
    Trinity: "Neo... nobody has ever done this before."
    Neo: "That's why it's going to work."
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    Based on what? The fact that history occurred? Yeah I suppose we can pretend it didn't happen.

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    Who said anything about forgetting history?
    But tell me, why should we glorify a Communistic society?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmd15 View Post
    Who said anything about forgetting history?
    But tell me, why should we glorify a Communistic society?
    *points up*

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmd15 View Post
    Who said anything about forgetting history?
    But tell me, why should we glorify a Communistic society?
    Why should we glorify ancient Greek or Egyptian societies?

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    They can put up a sign, "Soviet monument rubble lies here".

    I'm sure everyone can remember history without the berlin wall, Concentration Camps, MacDonalds, etc.

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    that works.

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    Few houses burned down, because there weren't many wooden houses. Tens of shops were destroyed and emptied (all alcohol was stolen there), kiosks were destroyed, cars had serious damages, all windows were broken, everything was a mess. Many of them got drunk and ended up killing eachother.
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    Government has instructed people to stay at home...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj0Yaqb8-MY#UhQORsnTek8
    Would you like to live in the same country with them?
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    This is what it looked like after cleaning the streets:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBw09RMakrE

    Russians are gathering on the streets again. We can never know what they will do... Estonian embassador in Russia was taken hostage for half an hour. Russians in Russia are planning to come to Estonia to take part in riot. Estonian embassy then decided not to give out any visas.

    Russian gangs are moving towards Toompea - the place where the president lives. Many of those Russians are drunk.
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    Some Russians are hiring other Russians to riot. Police cannot control the situation, because there aren't many of them.

    That Soviet Union statue was in the center of Tallinn in front of the National Library. It was moved to a cemetary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheez
    Exactly. Leaving statues to stand isn't "glorifying" them
    I would have to disagree with you. Statues are used to represent somthing good about the person in figure.
    Like this one in Estonia. And now that they don't share the same opinion, Russia isn't the happiest, they probably feel as if though they where ruddly mocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queatrix View Post
    I would have to disagree with you. Statues are used to represent somthing good about the person in figure.
    They're also used to represent history. If the Estonians want to pull them down, it's certainly their right, but saying they're glorifying Communism is silly. It's not a crime to remember history.

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