>> You forgot about boycott
I forgot my sarcasm tags, people!!!
>> You forgot about boycott
I forgot my sarcasm tags, people!!!
Last edited by twomers; 09-25-2006 at 10:25 AM.
But they notice it. That means it works.Originally Posted by siavoshkc
Some people post some text about the question and tell them to use code tags in the normal text size and they don't usually even notice it.
"The Internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore
> But if you wanna do something useful finish bombing threads (max's solution).
And you think it's useful starting the Nth thread about code tags!?
Sheesh!
Originally Posted by brewbuck:
Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.
>> Other code help forums do just fine without worrying about code tags at all.
Do they have them, and not incest on the users' use of them, or is it that they do not have them, and do not understand the aesthetic benifits which come with that snippet of code? The first is just silly (why have something which is good if it's not implemented), the second is also silly.
The question is - Do you prefer reading code that's tagged or code that's not tagged? If you prefer tagged, then you can't argue with the reintroduction of the script, if you don't, then, well, I won't insult you, but you don't.
Guys lets get something straight here...
a couple of weeks after the forums upgrade one of the oldest moderators posted a thread asking if we thought a good idea to reinstate the script. A vast majority said yes. Only a few black sheep thought it was a bad idea. Curiously enough only a handful were bothered by the lack of the script before that thread.
It's done! Over with. Finito. Subject closed. Asta la vista baby. See ya around. Period.
When the admins have the time or will, they will solve it. No matter how many threads we start on this. Capiche?
They know! They do. Trust me. They... know.
Originally Posted by brewbuck:
Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.
They have them, just like this site does. They request that posters use them via a sticky or FAQ or board rule or something. On one site I'm thinking of, most helpers don't mention it except for a few senior helpers who respectfully request that the user use code tags. On another site I'm thinking of, there are a bunch of smart, senior posters who help all the time, and I rarely see anybody even mention code tags even though they are used by everybody but the newbies.
So it is your first assumption- they have them but they don't insist that people use them. However, this is not silly at all, since the feature is implemented and most people do use it. It is just that only the new posters or the dense posters don't do it and nobody makes a big deal about it when it doesn't happen. People don't worry about it.
Who is arguing with the re-introduction of the script? Almost everybody agrees it was a good idea. And as I just said in the post you partially quoted, when the administrators have time they will probably put it back if it still works. Although if I was running this site I'd probably wait another couple months just to teach some patience.
>> Although if I was running this site I'd probably wait another couple months just to teach some patience.
I have none
Some good points, Mario. I hope to see it reintroduced soon though
[EDIT]What#s this?? A friendly forum?? I don't believe it!On one site I'm thinking of, most helpers don't mention it except for a few senior helpers who respectfully request that the user use code tags. On another site I'm thinking of, there are a bunch of smart, senior posters who help all the time, and I rarely see anybody even mention code tags even though they are used by everybody but the newbies.
Last edited by twomers; 09-25-2006 at 11:19 AM.
How is it even possible that a script understands where the code begins and where it ends? Do you have the best AI techonology in the world?>> Although if I was running this site I'd probably wait another couple months just to teach some patience.
Some good points, Mario. I hope to see it reintroduced soon though
"The Internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore
>> How is it even possible that a script understands where the code begins and where it ends?
'Understand', impossible. Guess, possible. I guess it tests the post for instances of {, } and other programming things (<, >), etc, and guesses about them.
However, one 'bug' with the old script was that it should have given the option for you to say that something wasn't code, like if I said something like
it would probably say "Use Code Tags!", which is wrong, so I should have an over-ride option.
On 4chan, all whitespace is automatically preserved by the board so you don't have to worry about code tags. I think they use non-breaking spaces or something like that ri achieve the effect.
In that scenario, use [font=Monospace][/font] tags. ;-)
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As I noticed in Salem thread, I am not agree with forcing people to do something. That script only should warn the poster.
The problem has simple solutions (S1-S6), each of them can solve the problem greatly (especialy S2). And S3 is required (max's simple logic). It only needs a bit of admins care.
New poster doesn't know that he/she should use Code tags. It is not His/Her fault, so you can't ban him/her. You just say use code tags, then he/she should go and find out what is the code tag and then use it. Why not S4? It replaces max's solution.
I am worry about the forum, this is why I started this thread.
So why Salem started that poll? And when they will have the will?When the admins have the time or will, they will solve it. No matter how many threads we start on this. Capiche?
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Is it not possible to introduce some fixed text immediately above the box where you enter the post text (for both new threads and replies) that says, "If you are posting code then you must use code tags, otherwise many helpers here will overlook your post"?
Or words to that effect. Make them in bold red.
That way, the poster has been warned, no need for a script (that can go wrong and not catch every instance of code, or worse, catch "code" that isn't code at all).
I think you can put a signature here.
> So why Salem started that poll? And when they will have the will?
Because, it hadn't been discussed before.
And... how should I know? Is it really damaging you guys so much this quotes thing. I mean, I surely would like to see the problem solved. But is it really that evil that it deserves 20 threads and an endless argument that came to a point where there are more posts than there are posters? You guys are proposing options without even knowing if the previous ones where debated or agreed between the admins. Or even if they care. C'mon!
Give it a break.
Originally Posted by brewbuck:
Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.
But that said, would it be unrealistic to ask why it was revoked in the first place? The only problem I had with it was what I mentioned beforehand.
