I'm thinking about getting this one


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...&s=electronics
20GB storage
1.7-inch OLED screen with 262,144 colors
FM tuner (oh yeah
Voice recorder
Syncs with Outlook for transfers
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...&s=audio-video

apple's out of the question due to expensive and poor sound quality.

I wouldn't mind one of those 8gb ones because the larger you get the more it is to manage, and I don't have 8gb worth of music that I would carry around anyway on my computer. I'm constantly clipping and don't mind managing, it's just that the smalelr ones cost around the same as the larger ones, so I go for the deal.

Plus the creative one doesn't use m3u playlists, nor does it support ogg.