Ambition and elbow grease can give a PHD and 25 years of experience a run for it's money.
Ambition and elbow grease can give a PHD and 25 years of experience a run for it's money.
The crows maintain that a single crow could destroy the heavens. Doubtless this is so. But it proves nothing against the heavens, for the heavens signify simply: the impossibility of crows.
Sadly in today's world of "Minimum BS and 5 years experience" ambition and elbow grease doesn't get you much further than the "daily feature" at newgrounds.com
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You'll find that's not so much of a problem when you realise most work can be found outside of newspapers and job websitesOriginally Posted by SlyMaelstrom
Order of importance IMO:
1. Attitude - this one is a biggie
2. Education/Knowledge (so I wasn't totally discounting college - but it's not the end all be all of life)
3. Experience
I agree, insomuch as ambition and work-ethic are attitude traits. Also a desire to continue learning, and a desire to produce quality software as an end in itself fit in that category.Attitude - this one is a biggie
And even though experience is at the bottom, it can still be a deal-breaker in terms of scoring a job, if you don't have enough of it, even if you have the right attitude qualities in trumps.
The crows maintain that a single crow could destroy the heavens. Doubtless this is so. But it proves nothing against the heavens, for the heavens signify simply: the impossibility of crows.
I was about 40 when I started programming when on active duty in the USAF in 1980. I didn't start learning C until I retired in 1985 -- bought a crappy computer with os9 operating system and a book. I recall it took several days just to get a HelloWorld to work! Now, at age 63, I feel like I'm still learning. Don't let anyone kid you into thinking that you can't teach an old dog new tricks
Your 100% right Ancient Dragon, just because your 63 doesn't mean you cannot learn anything more or new. I think its more about having the will to learn more then anything. It kinda proves it when people like you Ancient Dragon are learning at pass mid age.
(Expert Visual Basic Programmer)
(Newbie C/C++ Programmer)
Aye!! Hardy har harr.1. Attitude - this one is a biggie
I'm not immature, I'm refined in the opposite direction.
I'm not sure when I started programming. Around age 12 or 13 I guess. I wrote a lot of crappy BASIC apps on the Atari. Mostly stuff I could use myself. An AD&D character generator. Implemented a very simple windowing system of my own for this one, because I couldn't figure out the native API. God, about 30% of this project must have consisted of the word "goto" *shudder*. Then a math program for drawing graphs for school. And then some other stuff. I have never been a great programmer just because. I'm a programmer because I'm freaking lazy. Why do something manually when a computer can do it faster
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I started fairly young after finding a amiga basic book in a box out in the garage at the time it was way beyond me but I picked up a few basics. I took a C++ course in HS and did poorly mainly because I was coding a game and didn't want to do the BS classwork. After that I got my own compiler on my computer at home I think it was a MAC at the time and kept coding. A few years later I got to college and took a few courses on C++. Kept coding ever since that brings us to today 22 years old and only one text based RPG and one MMORPG to show for it.
Wow, I think that's so stupid. So many people around here consider how many games they make how successful they are. If that's the case, I have never been successful in this discipline.
My games were only successful in teaching me the skills I was tring to take out of writing them. The MMORPG showed me how to hack some server client code together. So successful in one aspect but unsuccessful in others such as obtaining a playerbase etc.
That's true.
I started programming last year (at the age of 12). started with html, then javascript, then css, a bit about java applets but i hardly understood anything, and started c++ in the summer of 2005. I have lots of patience and determination. So far, the best program I've made is a shooting game where your a ship at the bottom of the screen and you shoot aliens moving around at the top. I could start learning c++ later but I want to start making money (my primary obsession!) as early as possible so I'm starting early. I also learn extra math at home for graphics since they go too slow in my schools math classes. This gives me an advantage in school too but im always too careless.
I also have a friends starting c++, he learn from online tutorials but when he needs help or when we're working on a program together, we work quite well together.but when it comes to the real world they don't stand a chance, because they never learned to socialise.
this is the most ive ever written on any of my post...and now i feel like bragging,
I SOLVED A RUBIKS CUBE IN 27.18 SECONDS
Wow, not bad... you must use the real fast method. The best I've managed was around a minute.
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