Most people who claim to be Java experts are slightly pompous. Even the Sun docs have that sort of tone.
C/C++ documentation:
Here are all the tools we give you, this is what you can and cannot do. Use what bests fits your needs.
Java documentation:
This is how you solve this problem. Anything else is bad object oriented design.
>>C/C++ documentation:
huh? you mean C/C++ libraries have documentation? .....
lol, that's a bunch of crazy talk! Take for example:Originally Posted by skorman00
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/index.html
And then click on one of the menu items, like AbstractButton. I don't see any filler "you've gotta do it this way or you suck" attitude. Perhaps you're talking about the tutorials?
I think you're getting withdrawals from C lol.
c++ is all powerful, think it, create it.
i programmed a human brain(not an actual brain but
a piece of software to simulate) with the intelligence and
understanding of a college graduate. so ha.
I think you're right =). And yes, I was talking more about their tutorials. Also anybody I ask advice from. I got over it though. Java and I are on speaking terms again, but C/C++ and I got back together and the relationship is much better now.....that's right, BOTH of themI think you're getting withdrawals from C lol.
You're digging way to hard find some reason to "hate" Java. See, I've had quite a different experience than you. The Java API docs are extremely helpful. If you feel in any way troubled by the docs, maybe you missed the subtle joke that a few of the docs have.
All of the Java experts I've talked to (and I've talked to quite a few) are very friendly and definately not pompous. They all had the same viewpoint I have: Some languages do some things well, and some things bad. Use the best language for the specific task(s).
...and so I'm not labled an "enemy," I learned C way before I learned Java. My college teaches 3 classes strictly in Java, all the other classes use some other language that you have to learn on your own (usually C/C++). I prefer Java unless I'm doing *nix systems prorgramming.
{RTFM, KISS}
hehe I don't hate Java, I was trying to keep a bit more of a joking attitude about it. Although I never quite caught the subtle joke you're talking about.
It's like smoking and drinking beer at the same time lol....but C/C++ and I got back together and the relationship is much better now.....that's right, BOTH of them
I think it is because Java is strictly OOP so the rules have to be enforced more maybe? C++ being far superior () gives you the choice to do whatever the hell you want.
oh, me too... look:I'm currently trying to (re) learn Java for my new CS courses... I'm reading one of the books put out by Sun, and some things just don't seem to make sense - not that they're really bad, but I just like the way the're handled in other languages better...Code:#include<iostream> int main() { for(register double i=0;;i++) { std::cout<<i<<"\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\bhours spent Idle: "<<std::flush; } return 0; }
Join is in our Unofficial Cprog IRC channel
Server: irc.phoenixradio.org
Channel: #Tech
Team Cprog Folding@Home: Team #43476
Download it Here
Detailed Stats Here
More Detailed Stats
52 Members so far, are YOU a member?
Current team score: 1223226 (ranked 374 of 45152)
The CBoard team is doing better than 99.16% of the other teams
Top 5 Members: Xterria(518175), pianorain(118517), Bennet(64957), JaWiB(55610), alphaoide(44374)
Last Updated on: Wed, 30 Aug, 2006 @ 2:30 PM EDT
Lol
Yeah sometimes java has a weird way of doing things, but I think overall it is more intuitive if you want to get totally object oriented as opposed to the C++ style.
