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I was planning to go to London this week and take the underground to my Aunt's place.
Luckily, I failed one exam and had to resit it so the trip was cancelled.
Funny, I bet that's what the terrorists think too. We've reached the moral low ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Brain
No wait, I forget that terrorists don't think. They're obviously just a sick bunch of raving suicidal loonies. Just a group of Koran-waving maniacs aren't they? I bet invading their countries for non-existent WMDs and the Palestinian thing had absolutely nothing to do with it.
I'm glad you're not in charge of foreign policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Brain
Certainly what happened is terrible and heinous, but "war" in this case would simply be indiscriminate justice. And that's the worst kind of justice.
That's stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by The Brain
That's pathetic. The people affected weren’t responsible for either of those factors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante Shamest
I suppose the Middle East civilians who have been affected by the current war were responsible for something?. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fordy
choose a military target to retaliate. Not civilians. The coalition never targetted civilians intentionally. We regret the innocent who are affected negatively, we don't intentionally make them suffer. Your argument is typical but weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante Shamest
No of course not, but does that justify killing more civillians?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante Shamest
I apologise. You have enlightened me. The end justifies the means and collateral damage can be ignored. I should have realised that. I will follow that principle from now on.Quote:
Originally Posted by FillYourBrain
Injustice begets injustice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fordy
Anyway in the eyes of the terrorists, the civilians voted the governments into power, and hence are indirectly responsible. War truly makes all men equal in the eyes of the enemy.
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Seriously though, I don't want to let this topic degenerate into another "Was the War right?" debate. I retract all my remarks and apologise to anybody who has been offended by them.
somebody took a look at the trends: they said that over 3,000 people were killed in 9/11, 300 in spain, and now 30 in london, and they took that to mean that we're winning the 'war' on 'terrorism'...
hypothetical....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante Shamest
you are driving... you make a quick turn, not watching where you are going. You strike another car which slides into the median. The driver, a woman, dies that day.
The husband shows up that night and puts a gun to your wife's head and pulls the trigger. Justified?
I was being sarcastic when I said that.
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In the future I will use sarcasm tags. Like this.
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yes, I realise that. your sarcasm was mocking the idea that targetting civilians was wrong.
Anyway in response to your hypothetical question, the events themselves have no real meaning. Whether the final act of the husband killing the wife of the other man is justified or not depends on a person's notion of justice. Justice after all, is a human concept that cannot be quantified or accurately defined.
tell that to a jury
Watch 12 Angry Men.Quote:
Originally Posted by FillYourBrain