Thread: Holy crap

wow...this thread went off topic

If I was a god,
and was going to hide the secrets of the universe in mans' sight, I would pick a place he could not loose the code,
nor find it until he was ready....

DNA, the fundamental binary code.......

Well, all discussion is really moot, since, IIRC:

Alpha Centauri will crash into the Milky Way
The Moon will crash into the Earth
and, of course
the Sun will go Red Giant and probably either swallow us whole or fry us.


Cheery As my English teacher always says, all stories eventually end with "John and Mary die"

I prefer to believe John Titor will prove to be correct.

Biblical prophecy is often fulfilled at multiple levels - you see a small fulfillment followed by a much bigger one later in history.

When you read Matthew 24 and 25, you see that Jesus does not give a date and time of His Second Coming; however he clearly states that nobody knows the day or hour.

However, He does give some very clear signs, many of which are being fulfilled right here and now in our lifetimes. For example:

"Nations will rise against nations" - sure, there have always been wars, but the wars of the 20th Century have been more bloody than ever before, thanks to the advances of technology. Just look at both worlsd wars, including the Holocaust and what went on at such places as Auschwitz.

"Many will come in My Name" - again, there have always been false prophets and the like, but over the last century of so we've really seen an explosion in cults and Jesuses that beg to differ from the one in the Bible.

I don't think we'll ever fully understand Biblical prophecy as it pertains to events yet to come, and this is probably one reason why there are so many different eschatological viewpoints.

It was only 20 years ago that Reactor 4 at Chernobyl in the then USSR melted down, releasing radioactivity for thousands of miles. It has also been pointed out to me that the name "Chernobyl" means "bitter" in Ukrainian. If this is true, then what about the star in Revelation (8:13?) called called "wormwood" which fell to earth and turned 1/3 of the waters to wormwood (bitterness)?

As for the Bible code book referenced near the top of this thread, well, I read it some time ago and I do remain sceptical on that score for the same reason given up there.

The Bible code is a farse. There is no hidden meaning in the texts. It does not predict any future events save for Armageddon which again it does not give a date. Jesus also never gives a date for anything. I dunno how these morons come up with dates for stuff and say its in the Bible. Your taught not to do that like on the first day you go to college as a freshman or even the first day in Sunday School..........just morons. That be like trying to teach a science class out of the book of Genesis. It just can't be done....although some have tried....and failed miserably. The Bible code as its called is an incorrect interpretation because what it claims to come up with, it violates the long standing rule of hermenuetics:

A text can never mean to us what it could have never meant to its original audience..

I attempted to write a paper about the Bible code in one of my classes at college and the professor would not let me do it. It simply is not scholarly material and is not widely accepted as orthodox Christian theology...or any theology for that matter. It is hype that is cooked up and being broadcast by the Oral Roberts camp - but it is a farse much like half of what they attempt to 'sell' on their networks for the sake of getting people to watch and fund their mumbo jumbo. Just like God was gonna kill him if he didn't get a million. Thanks for playing.......

Prophecy is also not for predicting the future - but a lot of people have made a lot of money off of an abuse and misinterpretation of prophecy. It really all boils down to money and lots of it - read Jim Baker's book about how the people he got involved with knew what they were 'selling' in their messages and TV programs knew it was all a farse. TV usually only shows the most 'exciting' stuff and frankly not every sermon that every preacher ever preaches is exciting. So to sell the audience they only air stuff that grabs their attention. Unfortunately these things are rarely founded in good theology and it is a horrible trend because it all the more shows how money has twisted the message and the church as well.

The professor that rejected my paper was Dr. Oss from then CBC. He helped write and translate for the NLT or New Living Translation version of the Bible and AFAIK he also helped with 'The Message' which is a modern day translation of the King James Version.

Good books to pick up about good theology are Erickson Christian Theology, now in like it's 6th edition or something. and books by Bruce.

If you want to study about this stuff make sure you don't just go with what's cool right now or what the TV churches are 'into.' I stay away from all that garbage because it comes and goes and really just hurts the church as a whole. It's hideous.

You will probably find more biblically-based preaching and ethics at your local church there in your home town than you will ever find on TV. It's sad because most people judge by what they see on TV. But just as Hollywood rarely represents to the world what America really is.....TV rarely represents what really happens or what is taught inside of a local church on any given day. I, for one, never saw the stupid Bible code movie and frankly most religous based movies that attempt to make it big come up with a stupid story wrapped in a good message - but the movie normally sucks. The only exception to the rule is The Passion which actually from a techy movie standpoint was a pretty good flic - but I won't watch it again because it's ....well graphic and makes me cringe when they rip flesh off. Yuk.


Heck I could post my code here and some C wacko with too much time on their hands could probably come up with some hidden bit patterns that predicted how I'm going to take over the world in 2020.

Same thing. Exactly.

LOL.

I rarely talk about anything on this GD board....but that stuff really agitates me.

It's probably akin to Quzah, Prelude, or Salem seeing someone abuse and misuse C/C++. After studying something in depth and then seeing someone just violate every kind of rule and misuse and abuse it when they themselves know better....its just awful.

I bet I could make up some cool Bible code garbage and make lots of money on it as well. In fact I bet most people wouldn't even test it against what is really in the Bible. And anyways those who did go against me I would disprove them by saying they are being anti-spiritual or not open-minded enough. And if that didn't work then I'd probably resort to name bashing and making fun of them. Of course then I'd go right for their reputation or their past if they didn't stop going against me then. I'd be rich beyond my dreams.

I thought the 'Da Vinci Code' was a novel?

>>I prefer to believe John Titor will prove to be correct.

Did he find his PC and go 'home'?

> Did he find his PC and go 'home'?

He came back to warn us of impending disaster. Do not mock him.

I wonder if the Bible predicts what I'll have for breakfast tomorrow. I must look into this... I'm quite curious (my stock of poppy seed muffins has run out, so I'll have to get creative).

>>I prefer to believe John Titor will prove to be correct.

hey 2004 is almost up, and still no civil war