Well maybe the people don't know any better because all of their money goes for taxes so the tax cuts can go to the rich, and as a result they can't afford to eat nutricious food, and are left like all those people in the one Simpsons episode where they were fed gruel and lost their mental powers to discern so they could be brainwashed, and Homer took all of their gruel and so he was not affected in the same way, but kept singing the batman theme song...or something like that...
So what exactly have you proven here? The rich pay more taxes? Everyone knows that. The point of the "tax cuts for the rich" argument is that they don't actually need tax cuts. They're doing pretty damn well on their own, and as Reagan proved, giving tax cuts to the extremely wealthy doesn't exactly jumpstart the economy.
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Oh? They do?Originally Posted by Govtcheez
"You are stupid! You are stupid! Oh, and don't forget, you are STUPID!" - Dexter
Well, I guess I was wrong then. Everyone stop listening to me.
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Where are you getting off complaining that those who voted Kerry are uninformed? Are you saying that everyone who voted Bush down to the last hick out in the slogs of Alabama are any more informed on the issues? Both sides use propoganda to preach to those without a brain, don't act as though liberals are the only ones.
Ah, but at least I have illustrated it by example.
"You are stupid! You are stupid! Oh, and don't forget, you are STUPID!" - Dexter
Darkness, this isn't an attack on you. And I apologize for using you as a means to an end here. But it is important that people use more than campaign slogans to make decisions.
"You are stupid! You are stupid! Oh, and don't forget, you are STUPID!" - Dexter
It's cool, and you weren't a jerk, but being on the receiving end of being proved wrong still sucks
Read my post above. I actually thought I had my facts straight, and that I was making a decision that was more informed than average. Plus, it's not like I'm going to become a raging conservative now, unless you systematically prove me wrong on every other reason why I didn't vote for Bush. Both of my parents work in healthcare, and they typically get to see the 'real side' of things with that...that would have been like my family being rich, and I would have seen the real situation with taxes.
Then there's the war...but, that's a lot I'd rather not park in.
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It's not for me to "prove you wrong" on everything. I would only suggest that you ignore politicians and political people when they speak. This includes much of the news media. Find out facts, real facts before you vote.
edit: You deserve positive feedback
"You are stupid! You are stupid! Oh, and don't forget, you are STUPID!" - Dexter
> I would only suggest that you ignore politicians and political people when they speak.
I will second this. A good rule of thumb is if you wander into a bookstore and see a book by someone who also gives their opinion on TV, ignore that person.
-Govtcheez
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woohoo!!! mommy mommy somebody likes me!edit: You deserve positive feedback
But don't be too nice to me...you'll come across as a bleeding heart liberal hippy
I hate politics.
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Ahh... and if anyone is interested, here is a good paper on voter ignorance. It is disturbing to see how completely out of it many voters are: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=2372
The word rap as it applies to music is the result of a peculiar phonological rule which has stripped the word of its initial voiceless velar stop.
> He claims that he will not reinstate the draft (which he very well may not -- there is no evidence at the moment suggesting that he will), yet for some reason he refuses to do away with selective service registration.
This is just silly. I don't know of any other president that has actually tried to get rid of SS, and there's no reason for Bush to start now.
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Do you realize how ridiculous that statement sounds Govtcheez? The "it's been screwed up for a long time, so why bother fixing it?" argument is rather lacking.
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jlou, I think that too large of a portion of the regular posters didn't vote for Bush, so you aren't going to get a particularly large selection of answers... Other than FYB's since he's willing to face the liberal wrath.
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The word rap as it applies to music is the result of a peculiar phonological rule which has stripped the word of its initial voiceless velar stop.
You must misunderstand what he was saying here. Cheez was pointing out that the two don't relate and if you're criticism of Bush on the draft issue is that he "refuses" to do away with selective services registration you must also say that Bill Clinton "refused" and every previous president "refused". The reality is that nobody is refusing. They just have far more important things to deal with than making a change that wont help anything to begin with.
"You are stupid! You are stupid! Oh, and don't forget, you are STUPID!" - Dexter
