Microsoft hiding things for users??

**EvBladeRunnervE** · 08-06-2004

I don't think MS could get away with making you register every piece of software you own, that's waaaaay overboard. People wouldn't do it, and their sales would suffer. It doesn't matter how bad they want to put a stranglehold on their customers, if they start dissappearing they'll stop.

you and I would stop, but what about the average consumer. remember, when XP came out, alot of people were expecting the consumers to flip the bird at MS and leave, but it turned out to be one of the most popular(and most liked) of their OSs.

**Waldo2k2** · 08-06-2004

that is true, but registering a product you bought from microsoft to microsoft is one thing, registering my C&C generals with them is something totally different, its not their business, and I know for a fact that companies would not do it.

**~~bludstayne~~** · 08-06-2004

couldn't you just make an "emulator" that is in fact registered, then have it run your programs? Sort of like an extra layer if you will?

**Waldo2k2** · 08-06-2004

it's called wine, it runs windows programs under linux

...
had an idea...has anyone tried to boot windows under bochs or vmware??

**vasanth** · 08-07-2004

Originally Posted by Waldo2k2

has anyone tried to boot windows under bochs or vmware??

I have tried Windows 98 under VMware and works good but really slow.. and it was VMware on windows not on linux.. so i ran windows on windows

**sean** · 08-07-2004

Well if this is a hardware issue, emulators are probably not going to get around it until you have emulators specifically made for this OS. It sounds as though reverse compatibility is going to be non-existent (see my earlier post) if they go ahead with this. Programs will have to be made for this OS and this OS only.

**Brian** · 08-07-2004

Astalavista is a script kiddy site.

**Speedy5** · 08-08-2004

If you actually look up real information about Palladium; now called Next-Generation Secure Computing Base for Windows, part of Microsoft's Trustyworthy Computing Initiative. It actually seems like a great idea. Palladium will be turned off by default and is 100% backwards-compatible with applications that do not use the new security features. It encrypts all data transfers from Trusted Agents (Palladium-secured applications) so that way it'll be impossible to hack, even at the hardware level, since its also tightly integrated with hardware as well. These applications would have to be signed by a security authority, much like today's security systems. Microsoft would not be one. Its not related to DRM (Digital Rights Management). And in addition, Microsoft themselves said that it won't stop you from listening to MP3s or illegal DVDs. The only thing it does is secure data transfers under your authority and stops illegal applications under your discretion.

Let me tell ya, this is all going to sound really, really good to all those companies and people who were slammed by viruses in the past. It will get adopted. And it doesn't harm the average user as: a) its there to protect you; b) it doesn't gather personal data; c) encrypts your chosen data; d) non-Palladium apps can still be developed and work; d) its turned off by default.

Here's the Microsoft source.

**Brian** · 08-09-2004

Originally Posted by Speedy5

so that way it'll be impossible to hack,

Hehe

**Zach L.** · 08-09-2004

Here's the Microsoft source.

Aww... Getting my hopes up... You should be careful using the word source on a programming board.

**Felix** · 08-10-2004

Now I remember! TCPA.

**EvBladeRunnervE** · 08-12-2004

well, I find it rather rediculous that anyone would actually trust hardware that has this type of setup in it. To compare it to something, read Bubba's post regarding his cell-phone.

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