Thread: Saddam's Trial

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    Quote Originally Posted by vNvNation
    There are various big-shot lawyers competing, yes, competing, to earn the right to defend him.
    It's great publicity for them.

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    Jaques Verges already won the right to defend him a while ago =S didn't he?

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    from some of the things Saddam said, I think it would also be a great time to put Bush on trial. There are numerous reasons to expect Bush of being a war criminal, and if he has done nothing wrong then he should be ok with one. I think they should just make a big happy case involving several defendants, such as those that were torturing prisoners at abu ghraib and on the battle field , and put it in front of the Iraqi courts.
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    >>There are numerous reasons to expect Bush of being a war criminal

    I should quote that but it would be mean

    I think you would like this: http://www.ericblumrich.com/

    That flash intro seems almost like terrorist propaganda--either that or a presidential campaign commercial
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    The trial is a political tool designed to give US voters closure on the Iraq 'conflict' before the US elections.
    Just look at the charges. Iraq could try Sadam for murdering a cabinet minister (with plenty of witnesses) quickly, easily and execute him under Islamic law.

    ie gassing of the Kurds in the 1980s, specifically at Halabja in March 17, 1988 using mustard gas and the nerve gas Sarin.
    According to the US Senate Riegle Report the US continued to sell Sadam WMD for another two years (until 1990 Kuwait invasion).

    Does that make the US an accomplice of Sadam?

    Look at the horrible things the US sold Sadam in the 1980’s (according to the US government)
    http://www.gulfweb.org/bigdoc/report/r_1_2.html


    >>He is getting rights that the people he executed didn't.

    And that the US refuses to give others, ie Geneva Convention

    >>What else is there to prove.

    That Sadam is a very naughty boy and GWB et al were right in destroying Iraq to get him out.

    >>I'd be scared to be the defense attorney of a terrorist.

    When did every bad guy become a 'terrorist'?


    >>Saddam Hussein faces the death penalty, Beckham is going to take it.

    LOL!
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    because it's the war on terror man! when people here terrorist they think 9/11, they think bad, and they think "ok lets get him!". i'm not standing up for saddam but the bush administration is going on a rampage in the name ofworld security and terrorism (although the links between saddam hussein and al qaeda STILL aren't proven)

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    Quote Originally Posted by whackaxe
    because it's the war on terror man! when people here terrorist they think 9/11, they think bad, and they think "ok lets get him!". i'm not standing up for saddam but the bush administration is going on a rampage in the name ofworld security and terrorism (although the links between saddam hussein and al qaeda STILL aren't proven)
    Neither have his nuclear weapons been found...
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    > although the links between saddam hussein and al qaeda STILL aren't proven

    The links between Saddam and al-qaeda were shown in the 9/11 Comission report. They amounted to something like "Iraqi high-ups and al-qaeda high-ups met 2 or 3 times and nothing much came of it".

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    The links between Saddam and al-qaeda were shown in the 9/11 Comission report. They amounted to something like "Iraqi high-ups and al-qaeda high-ups met 2 or 3 times and nothing much came of it".
    from what I have seen, it was members of Ansar Al-Islam and Al-Zarqawi's group that had contact with Saddam Hussein, not Al-Qaiida(funny the news considers them all one and the same ).

    Iraq could try Sadam for murdering a cabinet minister (with plenty of witnesses) quickly, easily and execute him under Islamic law.
    but alas, the same people who say the US was based off of judeo-christian law, refuse to give the Iraqi people any laws based out of the Qur'an. He could be very, very quickly killed for what he did, if they followed Qur'anic/Islamic law. He is a murderer, no evidence against that, and intentional murder of innocents is punishable by death via beheading(which is pretty painless by the way, because you bleed out rather quick, and as long as it isnt with a rusty, dull blade, the cutting itself goes quick).

    When did every bad guy become a 'terrorist'?
    since GWB took "command" on 9/11/2001. Terrorism is a very touchy definition of what these guys are doing. Intentionally harming civilians is terrorism; so far in Iraq it has only been intentionally killing of Military personell/contractors, and accidentally getting civies in the collateral damage toll.
    there used to be something here, but not anymore

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    Im sorry but this is all bullI am sillyI am sillyI am sillyI am silly suddam has nothing to do with 9/11 it was bin laden and al-quada. Bush (the jackass of a president he is) couldn't catch saddam so he thought hmmmm..... who can i blame this on, let me see how about the guy who my father went after hmm....Iraq controls 20% of the worlds oil there could be some money in this for me..theres my opinion on the whole thing. You all could just go to see that 9/11 documentry thats out in theaters it may enlighten some of you brainwashed schmucks.



    (not that all of u r schmucks)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Govtcheez
    It's great publicity for them.
    How, exactly? Perhaps if they only defend fallen leaders of the Baath party for the rest of their careers.

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    >>because it's the war on terror man!

    Exactly. Its very emotive. Better to raise your patriotic ire.

    >>when people here terrorist they think 9/11, they think bad, and they think "ok lets get him!".

    Even though there is no connection. In fact OBL offered his army to Saudi Arabia to fight Sadam in 1990 (when Sadam invaded Kuwait). The Saudi regime was scared of a private citizen with an arm so they asked the US for troops.


    >>Terrorism is a very touchy definition of what these guys are doing.

    Again it is simply an emotive catch cry to ensure we all 'stay on message'.

    This is terrorism, sending WMD to someone whom you know is using them on women and children.

    "Date : September 29, 1988
    Sent To : Ministry of Trade
    Materials Shipped:

    1. Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 240)
    Batch # 05-14-63 (3 each)
    Class III pathogen

    2. Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 938)
    Batch # 1963 (3 each)
    Class III pathogen

    3. Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 3629)
    Batch # 10-23-85 (3 each)

    4. Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 8009)
    Batch # 03-30-84 (3 each)

    5. Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 8705)
    Batch # 06-27-62 (3 each)
    Class III pathogen

    6. Brucella abortus (ATCC 9014)
    Batch # 05-11-66 (3 each)
    Class III pathogen

    7. Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 10388)
    Batch # 06-01-73 (3 each)

    8. Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 11966)
    Batch #05-05-70 (3 each)
    Class III pathogen

    9. Clostridium botulinum Type A
    Batch # 07-86 (3 each)
    Class III pathogen

    10. Bacillus cereus (ATCC 33018)
    Batch # 04-83 (3 each)

    11. Bacillus ceres (ATCC 33019)
    Batch # 03-88 (3 each)
    "
    source the Riegle Report

    These pathogens are Botulism, Anthrax, Gangrene ect.

    These items were supplied to Sadam AFTER the US knew he had used Sarin and VX on Kurdish women and children.

    If it did not bother the US administration then, WHY NOW?
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    Im sorry but this is all bullI am sillyI am sillyI am sillyI am silly suddam has nothing to do with 9/11 it was bin laden and al-quada. Bush (the jackass of a president he is) couldn't catch saddam so he thought hmmmm..... who can i blame this on, let me see how about the guy who my father went after hmm....Iraq controls 20% of the worlds oil there could be some money in this for me..theres my opinion on the whole thing. You all could just go to see that 9/11 documentry thats out in theaters it may enlighten some of you brainwashed schmucks.
    erm, Michael Moore's film can hardly be called a documentary, as it still filled with alot of the BS arguments and lack of factual arguments that his "Bowling for Columbine" film suffered from. Bush is not doing this for oil money, because quite simply our need of Iraq oil is pretty slim; he is however doing this for big business contributors to continue financing him. I am against the Iraq war, but fully support Bush getting another term solely because that will inspire freedom fighters world wide ....
    there used to be something here, but not anymore

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    the only thing bush inspired world wide was protests against the war (the biggest ever apparntly) you know there are around 90 countries in similar conditions to iraqs? is the US invading them? don't thin kso, they are OK just as long as they don't go against US policy.

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