Thread: riding the last wave of C++

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    we have internet classes at my school (e.g. how to use the internet)
    Let me guess
    They think the Internet consists solely of the Web, or of the Web and email system?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
    I get maybe two dozen requests for help with some sort of programming or design problem every day. Most have more sense than to send me hundreds of lines of code. If they do, I ask them to find the smallest example that exhibits the problem and send me that. Mostly, they then find the error themselves. "Finding the smallest program that demonstrates the error" is a powerful debugging tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSquared
    Pfft. FORTRAN is the way to go.
    Fool! It's all about COBOL.

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    BASIC or bust!

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    Assembly, e.g. via Flat Assembler?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
    I get maybe two dozen requests for help with some sort of programming or design problem every day. Most have more sense than to send me hundreds of lines of code. If they do, I ask them to find the smallest example that exhibits the problem and send me that. Mostly, they then find the error themselves. "Finding the smallest program that demonstrates the error" is a powerful debugging tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserlight
    Let me guess
    They think the Internet consists solely of the Web, or of the Web and email system?
    i don't even want to know

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    everyone knows that the internet is just for pr0n and mp3's, duh
    PHP and XML
    Let's talk about SAX

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Shamest
    I thought PHP was written in C? So that means C ownz all.
    Yeah, but in the end, it all turns into machine code.

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    And personally, I don't like C++ that much. I prefer C# and Java. I don't feel there are any advantages to teaching C++ over java, other than the fact that it's easier to learn java after learning C++ (as opposed to the other way around).

    And this won't do much to hurt the industry. Remind you that 50% of C++ programmers are still just c programmer who barely use C++ to its full potential. By emphasizing java in high school and college, they are going to expand the use of object oriented programming in the industry, and maybe kill off a lot of the c code that is found in the C++ world. And this seems like this is very possible since moving over to C++ from java is easier than c to C++(teaching C++ in schools encourages programmers to use a lot of c in the real world).

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    Yeah, but in the end, it all turns into machine code.
    Try writing PHP in machine code using a hex editor then

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    One last note, C++ won't die out until a better language is created.

    Java won't take over the industry, it isn't fast enough, simply put!

    Compiled code will probably own the industry (for many many years).

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    Give me a good macro assembler and a 68000 chip any day...

    <sigh>

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    What's all this about "Java isn't fast enough!" stuff? I'll paraphrase Bubba from some thread or another.

    It's sad, because people are just turning to faster CPU's, RAM and GPU's to cover their behinds while they use disgustingly slow and inefficient algorithms (or in this case languages), and pump up the 'system requirements' instead of streamlining their code.
    One day, Quake XVIII will be written in Java, with system requirements of triple 358920 ghz CPU's, 42 terabytes SuperDuperDDR RAM, and GeForce FXFXFXFXFXFXFXFXFXFX 4 32 terabyte SuperDDR Dual-Processor vid card

    **EDIT**
    Hmm, actually I think that post is from some other forum... Flashdaddee probably...

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    Heh, actually for the past 5 years, my "Science and tech is our focus!" school hasn't even had a grade 12 computer course of any kind
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserlight
    It doesnt have all that much prospects outside web programming though.
    actually, there is a non web part of PHP. not very conveniant for shure, but it's fun to program http://gtk.php.net/

    and php is written in C, but it could be written in Java

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    I love PHP, but never real got into Perl, so I'm a little biased like that. However, I hardly ever do web programming nowadays. No one does, they all use PHPBB or vBulletin .
    Do not make direct eye contact with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker
    No one does, they all use PHPBB or vBulletin .
    Well, writing a decent forum is time-consuming, so most people don't bother.
    There is more than forums in web programming: dynamic pages, user-dependant permissions...
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