riding the last wave of C++

**DavidP** · 04-09-2004

yes it is possible to compile Java code instead of have it interpreted, however, it is still slower than crap.

Just look at the Netbeans Java IDE for example. Netbeans, an IDE for developing in Java, was itself developed in Java (a huge mistake by Netbeans), and it runs SLOWER THAN CRAP.

Netbeans IDE takes more time to start up than MSVC++, 3ds Max, Maya, Halo, C++Builder, and many more programs combined. I can start Netbeans, go to the bathroom, come back, and it still wont be finished starting up. Many other Java programs are the same way, even when compiled.

**Waldo2k2** · 04-09-2004

echo david,
i've got a simple text editor written in java, it takes 20 seconds to load on a machine with a p4 2.8 and 90% resources free...textpad loads in under 2.

**lo_tek** · 04-09-2004

The three main languages I'm studying are plain old C, Java, and Perl. I absolutely love C even though it can be cryptic trying to keep all the pointers straight. Perl looks promising for general stuff. But Java is a real pain. The only reason I'm studying it is to keep up with the times. Like some other members said, it is slower than pouring frozen molasses. And Java is way too high a level to really get down and dirty with your computer. C will always remain my favorite, mainly because you can actually write device drivers with it and directly interact with the machine. Java is like BASIC, it's a language for beginners learning computer science, but that's about it. Not sure about Perl because I just started dabbling in it. But Perl does seem to let you put code from other languages in it.

Just my 2¢

**Waldo2k2** · 04-09-2004

Perl sucks, well, it's powerful, but writing it sucks
Perl is the main reason I learned PHP

**-KEN-** · 04-09-2004

Originally Posted by Waldo2k2

Perl sucks, well, it's powerful, but writing it sucks
Perl is the main reason I learned PHP

What? Perl is easy to write.

**Waldo2k2** · 04-09-2004

well maybe I'm just stupid, but I thought it sucked for CGI...especially when compared to PHP. Though PHP doesn't have the low level power perl does.

**Thantos** · 04-09-2004

I tried using perl for a cgi script and hated it.

**laserlight** · 04-09-2004

What? Perl is easy to write.

It may not be easy to read though.

**XSquared** · 04-10-2004

Pfft. FORTRAN is the way to go.

**whackaxe** · 04-10-2004

PHP owns all IMO. ive looked at CGI through perl (and C++ a bit) and PHP is so much 'better' in general

**laserlight** · 04-10-2004

Originally Posted by whackaxe

PHP owns all IMO. ive looked at CGI through perl (and C++ a bit) and PHP is so much 'better' in general

As a teaching tool and for developing websites, I would agree (mostly).

It doesnt have all that much prospects outside web programming though.

**Dante Shamest** · 04-10-2004

PHP owns all IMO.

I thought PHP was written in C? So that means C ownz all.

**Thantos** · 04-10-2004

PHP syntax uses C, perl, and java.

**ZakkWylde969** · 04-10-2004

Hmm. They don't even teach computer programming at my high school. The closest we have is a web page design class. The teacher is a moron. I was talking to her about her class the other day and asked if she got into php and the sort. She didn't know what I was talking about. Then I asked if she went into Javascript or even HTML. It was just frontpage. What a crappy school.