Thread: Farewell to 'C'

try that with The C++ Programming Language by Bjarne Stroustrup, id like to see if you could make it past the Preface.

I have the special edition of this book. No problem. I'll read it after I finish Accelerated C++ and C++ Primer. By the end of November I'll have it read cover to cover and I'll understand it all.

Ofcourse VC meets the standard you dumb bastard.

VC works perfectly fine, there is no problem. I fault the authors of the book because they did the odd stupid thing with their code samples. I use VS.NET now, in other words I'm using the best compiler there is. There have been upgrades to VS.NET for doing special work with templates and generic programming, but some of this work is not part of the standard. The standard itself is fully supported.

One thing VS.net is still in beta so most people are not refering to that. Visual Stuido 6 does not comply to the standerds.

One more thing if IE is at version 6 why does hotmail sugest I get version 5. (I get this page as a result from using proxomtrion)

I can't help it if you guys are poor, come on. Well I'm sure about 75% of you will all be using VS.NET sometime in 2002. It's an awesome compiler. You are all using junk right now.

>I can't help it if you guys are poor, come on. Well I'm sure about 75% of you will all be using VS.NET sometime in 2002. It's an awesome compiler. You are all using junk right now.<

VS.net is free so why do you think we are poor. Also the year is 2001 not 2002. and I use borland's command line with vide. I belive it is the best free compiler.

Why
[list=1][*]Complies to the standard (unlike vs 6 into)[*]no editor[/list=1]
[list=a][*]since there is no code formating (or very poor using vide) so I learn to format my code properly. [/list=a]

Also if you can't set it up, I see no way for you to program.

No kidding its 2001. You don't have any common sense now? Do you have a disease or something? I didn't even vote on that thread you made which asked people which compiler they used and still VC won by a large majority, around 75%

Invisible or not, you are still a foul begger.

>No kidding its 2001. You don't have any common sense now? Do you have a disease or something? I didn't even vote on that thread you made which asked people which compiler they used and still VC won by a large majority, around 75%<
Yea, ever one decide that since the visual C++ editor make your code nice and pretty it was the best compier (go figure).

>Invisible or not, you are still a foul begger.
NO I am Game God 3001.

Yea, ever one decide that since the visual C++ editor make your code nice and pretty it was the best compier (go figure).

No, that's what you think that other people believe however this is not true in the slightest bit (and you even know it). Have you even looked into .NET? Microsoft has implimented large scale changes in order to bring the programmer the best possible environment to work in.

>No, that's what you think that other people believe however this is not true in the slightest bit (and you even know it). Have you even looked into .NET? Microsoft has implimented large scale changes in order to bring the programmer the best possible environment to work in.<

You have got to stop traveling between 2002 and today. .net is still in development so stop using them. Microsoft is at the brink of releasing software that will revolion the software industry, so you are comparing ultra to normal. Comon you got to give us a chance.

I have VC++6 still installed. I'm working with VS.NET beta 2 because it is very stable. I used VC++6 to run a program today and was surprised just how plain VC6 was compared to VS.NET. I almost puked on my keyboard. And you can imagine because VC6 is not a bad compiler at all, yet it is nowhere near as helpful to the programmer as VS.NET. If you had a good professional operating system like Win2k and a decent CPU and HD (7200 rpm) than you should use VS.NET beta 2. Also there is a significant amount of learning that needs to be acquired in order to understand .NET. I can write my 'unmanaged' C/C++ programs easy enough as Win32 console, but VS.NET offers much more. It's even frustrating not knowing how to use all that potential but I'm still learning the C/C++ language definitions. If you know some MFC than you would be able to tap into some of the power. VS.NET offers MFC/ATL but the .NET Framework Class Library is there too, and this thing is cross language, something liike 5000 classes waiting to be used. I don't even think is runs through the Win32 API because it is built right into the operating system, I'm not 100% clear about that though.

>I have VC++6 still installed. I'm working with VS.NET beta 2 because it is very stable. I used VC++6 to run a program today and was surprised just how plain VC6 was compared to VS.NET. I almost puked on my keyboard. And you can imagine because VC6 is not a bad compiler at all, yet it is nowhere near as helpful to the programmer as VS.NET. <

Good you relize that vs.net is a major improvment, over VS.net VC++ 6

>If you had a good professional operating system like Win2k and a decent CPU and HD (7200 rpm) than you should use VS.NET beta 2. <
I plan to buid/buy a new computer in about a year. (why do I need such a large rpm for my hard drive I have a 5400 rpm on my computer now that I was going to keep)

>Also there is a significant amount of learning that needs to be acquired in order to understand .NET. I can write my 'unmanaged' C/C++ programs easy enough as Win32 console, but VS.NET offers much more. It's even frustrating not knowing how to use all that potential but I'm still learning the C/C++ language definitions. If you know some MFC than you would be able to tap into some of the power. VS.NET offers MFC/ATL but the .NET Framework Class Library is there too, and this thing is cross language, something liike 5000 classes waiting to be used. I don't even think is runs through the Win32 API because it is built right into the operating system, I'm not 100% clear about that though.<
First what is the diffrence betwwen 'unmanaged' and 'managed' C/C++.
Second I don't know mfc (or care to currantly since my aim is to create games so knowing the basic windows api is good enough for me at this time)
Third isn't xp profesional a 64 bit OS. So wount there be a win64 api.

I will have no plans of buying any profesinal development envorment's until I start collage. Unless microsoft release a truly free compier (no message boxes, or other things the Intoducty version has) I will probley never use .net. I will contiue to use borland command line since it the best free compiler.