Saddam Hussein captured.

**ZerOrDie** · 12-15-2003

Originally posted by major_small
feel like telling us what the other reasons were?

Oh Oh i know! They where liberating Iraq from a tyrant they placed there in the first place! Unfortunatly the tyrant had decided to no longer be the lap dog of the USA so he had to go.

**DISGUISED** · 12-15-2003

Originally posted by nvoigt

Another question is who shall judge ? Which court can claim jurisdiction ? I'd say Den Hague's court of war crimes might not be so bad. But then, American's won't accept an international court. Too bad. Whatever you do, even if you are perfectly fair ( which is an impossible task in itself ) it will never look like a fair trial.
The US works with double standards very often. It's in their best interest, and after all, thats a governments job: lie, cheat and do everything they can to get the most for their people. The US does quite well in this aspect of world politics, like many others. Sometimes I think only US citizens can be so naive to expect others to like them for it.

In general, I'm happy the tyrant got caught. I'd be even happier if he'd not vanish in some unknown camp in Cuba where he has no rights at all, but be judged by a court recognized by the UN.

According to every news report I have watched here in the states (and that's not many) he is expected to go on trial in Iraq by the people of Iraq and the new goverment that's in place. I'm sure he will certainly be put to death if this is the case.

**FillYourBrain** · 12-15-2003

Originally posted by major_small
feel like telling us what the other reasons were?

re-read my post for a couple answers

**UnregdRegd** · 12-15-2003

Originally posted by FillYourBrain
When I mentioned children talking politics, I did mean more than just Zakk though. The fact is, people are very idealistic when they are young. As they get older they realize that there is a more reasonable (and quieter) middle ground. Just be aware that these conversations are a waste of your lives. That is all.

Ah, to resign yourself to accepting the status quo, to abandon principles because change does not come easily, do you seriously believe everyone does this with age? I know quite a few liberal senior citizens and older adults. However, I don't see anything reasonable about accepting whatever the government does without question--automatically trusting a war is being done for the common good, for example.

I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to make the world a better place. If we don't try, then what exactly should we do in life: steal material goods, exploit others, and seek status? If you're trying to develop a better, freer operating system, if you're trying to make a more useful computer program, if you're trying to cure cancer, you're trying to make the world a better place. I guess we'd still be in the Stone Age if it weren't for all those idealistic people.

**FillYourBrain** · 12-15-2003

it's the emotionally charged arguments that I refer to. Your feverish response is exactly what I'm talking about. You are so intent on arguing that you don't even realize that what I said opposes no particular view. I did not say sit back and do nothing. I did not say become a puppet. I said that over time, people lose the emotion and become rational. You most likely will too Unregd

example:
the number of violent political demonstrations on college campuses vs the number of violent political demonstrations in supermarkets.

**PJYelton** · 12-15-2003

While I don't necessarily disagree with you FYB, I wouldn't comletely chalk it up to people becoming more rational, although that is usually a part of it. A lot of it is also apathy and the realization that after years of caring so much nothing has changed so why bother anymore. Doesn't necessarily mean their views are any more rational then they were when they were young. Just means they have a family, job, etc to worry about instead.

**FillYourBrain** · 12-15-2003

yes PJY, you definitely do start to worry about other things. But in the process you start to realize just how silly you were way back when. Your view of those you see doing what you used to do become similar to a king watching the court jester.

While it is good for kids to go through a fired up political period, it is also good for them to grow out of it. To be aware but not to let it rule them. And to stop treating it as a damn sporting event where they have to root for their team.

**FillYourBrain** · 12-15-2003

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**ZakkWylde969** · 12-15-2003

I have a question for all of you liberals. Especially you Govt. Since you are so amazing and know everything. Why is that since you are so strongly opposed to this war you are GLAD that Saddam is caught? You shouldn't want him to be caught at all. In your opinion months ago before we caught him we shouldn't have been there at all, now it's a good thing we caught him? It seems like you are changing your story as this war goes along. I mentioned that book because it was on my desk at the time and the subject reminded me of it. Just a push for a good read.

Your ideas are generally moronic and not based in fact,

My ideas are generally based on facts and your on opinion. Whos ideas are more moronic? The ones I base on fact, or your ones generated by the dislike of the president.

**FillYourBrain** · 12-15-2003

zakk, you're not helping the cause.

**-KEN-** · 12-15-2003

Originally posted by ZakkWylde969
I have a question for all of you liberals. Especially you Govt. Since you are so amazing and know everything. Why is that since you are so strongly opposed to this war you are GLAD that Saddam is caught? You shouldn't want him to be caught at all. In your opinion months ago before we caught him we shouldn't have been there at all, now it's a good thing we caught him? It seems like you are changing your story as this war goes along. I mentioned that book because it was on my desk at the time and the subject reminded me of it. Just a push for a good read.

My ideas are generally based on facts and your on opinion. Whos ideas are more moronic? The ones I base on fact, or your ones generated by the dislike of the president.

Do you believe what you write? Or do you just place your ass over the keyboard and ........ everywhere?

**Fahrenheit** · 12-15-2003

I don't believe we should be at war but I am glad Saddam is caught. The more progress we make, the closer the war will be to being over...

**Govtcheez** · 12-15-2003

> My ideas are generally based on facts and your on opinion. Whos ideas are more moronic? The ones I base on fact, or your ones generated by the dislike of the president.

Then please, show me all of China's nice humanitarian actions. I'll wait.

> Why is that since you are so strongly opposed to this war you are GLAD that Saddam is caught?

Well, me not wanting the war sure as hell didn't prevent it, so I may as well be happy something good came out of it.

**~~Silvercord~~** · 12-15-2003

I still believe my ideas are better than bush's, i.e instead of waging war on islam terrorists or whatever, just drop cookies everywhere. their attitude will change from "kill the infidels" to "yeah, well, I PLANNED on killing the infidels, but DAMN these are good cookies, maybe later"