Half life 2 source code stolen

**Brian** · 10-03-2003

Just to clarify. It is a huge amount of source code, It does include the engine, and this is a bad thing.

Code:

//=========== (C) Copyright 1999 Valve, L.L.C. All rights reserved. ===========
//
// The copyright to the contents herein is the property of Valve, L.L.C.
// The contents may be used and/or copied only with the written permission of
// Valve, L.L.C., or in accordance with the terms and conditions stipulated in
// the agreement/contract under which the contents have been supplied.
//
// $Header: $
// $NoKeywords: $
//
// Implementation of a material
//=============================================================================

and some disclaimers say copyright 2003. I was really looking forward to this game, and I hope this does not have a negative impact on the game itself (but hey, maybe this means someone will compile it for linux

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**RoD** · 10-03-2003

Originally posted by BMJ
No it's not a crime to care.

And I didn't say that it's not a shame someone had to do this to make a statement.

I implied that there are not going to be "dodgy versions" of HL2 sprouting up because of this. I assumed RoD wouldn't take a quote like that out of another post rather than posting in that thread, I assumed wrong.

I didnt post any quotes BMJ, what are you talking about?

**HybridM** · 10-03-2003

however about 3 seconds after that i feel like valve got what they deserved.

No one deserves this.
This is the game industry people, I can't remember any games that weren't delayed, everyone knew half-life2 was gonna be delayed, perhaps Gabe was hopeful that whatever it was would be easily resolved, you don't know.

I wish people would stop all this open source talk, you're like modern day hippies! There are times when open source doesn't work, and I think that's here. Companies need to make money, if their source code is freely available, why would anyone bother paying for licences? Licences will probably make up more money for valve than sales.

**BMJ** · 10-03-2003

Originally posted by RoD
I didnt post any quotes BMJ, what are you talking about?

Er, I meant JaWib... I haven't slept in over a day

It should be clarified that ther will be NO DODGY versions of hl2 released - source code that was leaked is not the ENGINE source. You see, the source code compiles into vms, dlls or what ever mechanism to be loaded as Libraries for the actual hl ENGINE.

The entire engine's source was leaked... er, don't hate me for being curious and looking myself. I was actually quite blown away to be looking HL2's engine source. The leak contained batch build files/notes that no SDK would have, and even contained the "to-be" released public SDK directory.

But yes, the entire engine was leaked.

**BMJ** · 10-03-2003

Originally posted by HybridM
I wish people would stop all this open source talk, you're like modern day hippies! There are times when open source doesn't work

Yes, retail games should not be open-source, IMHO.

**the Wookie** · 10-03-2003

whered you get the SS from brian?

**confuted** · 10-03-2003

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11913

While the source code does not include the full game, the source code of the engine can be examined to create exploits in the game.

I just looked around for a few minutes to see how hard it was to find the source. I didn't try very hard, because I don't want it, but I didn't see it anywhere. Hopefully it's hard to find.

**Brian** · 10-03-2003

Originally posted by the Wookie
whered you get the SS from brian?

Uhhh...a friend

**Geolingo** · 10-03-2003

Originally posted by HybridM
No one deserves this.
This is the game industry people, I can't remember any games that weren't delayed, everyone knew half-life2 was gonna be delayed, perhaps Gabe was hopeful that whatever it was would be easily resolved, you don't know.

I wish people would stop all this open source talk, you're like modern day hippies! There are times when open source doesn't work, and I think that's here. Companies need to make money, if their source code is freely available, why would anyone bother paying for licences? Licences will probably make up more money for valve than sales.

This has nothing to do with delays, or open source. They were up to no good with a new billing model and BACK DOORED PRODUCTS. Read the partial source from steam. Ask people that know about steam. They can remotely install, delete, edit, and control your pooter. It is DRM and DRM is wrong.

**BMJ** · 10-03-2003

Originally posted by maes
BMJ, this guy stole your avatar (or you from him
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/show...&pagenumber=12
or is it you?

Nope, not me... they stole Hillbillie's avatar @ FD too ;D

**~~Silvercord~~** · 10-03-2003

i found it on kazaa in about five minutes. i dont' know if i am going to download it...would it really be wrong just to look at it? I'm a coder and could actually appreciate their work, as long as I don't use it to cheat (which I wouldn't, because I hate playing multiplayer games anyway)

**bennyandthejets** · 10-04-2003

The source code will come out legally eventually anyway. I think, as a token of appreciation, it would be better to wait until then. For now, buy the game (when it comes out) and have some fun.

**~~Silvercord~~** · 10-04-2003

What makes you think the source will ever be released legally to non licensees?

**BMJ** · 10-04-2003

No, some people are confused...

Valve's SDK is not their complete engine source. Which btw, is lisenced from ID software (it's still using a Quake base apparently

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