Linux(UNIX BSD etc also) is a programmers OS
Windows is a programmers OS
Macintosh is a programmers OS / Other also
According to Linus, his reasons for creating the kernel were, as quoted from Linus in "The Code"
I didn't want anbody else to have to go through the same thing I had. Your trying to find something like Linux, so I decided hmm, maybe some other computer science student out there needs his own operating system then he doesnt have to start from scratch. It wasn't the big fight against the windmills it was not Don Quixote against the world trying to, to make a better place.
Sort of related story:
One of my friends that's trying to get into programming (calculators, impressive...), anyways he aproaches me and asks "How does Linux make money?".
I replied "Umm... There isn't really a 'Linux' as in a main company or something, and they don't make money, considering it's open source."
He said "Well then how do they pay the programmers?"
I just laughed and walked away.
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You laughed at your friend who doesn't understand the concept of open-source?
There was a day that I didn't know what Linux or open-source was. Would you have laughed at me then?
You're pretty cool, dude. Call me when you're in the neighborhood. We'll hang out, and I'll laugh at you once for every single thing I know that you don't. Sounds fun, doesn't it?Originally posted by CheesyMoo
lolz my friend din'nt kno a teck thing
> Would you have laughed at me then?
Well, yeah, but it wouldn't have had anything to do with Linux or open-source, hippie
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>Well, yeah, but it wouldn't have had anything to do with Linux or open-source, hippie<
Granted. Keep on drinking you bastard.
I laughed at him because he always trys to act smarter than me, and he is a know-it-all, I didn't like laugh at him meanly, I was just kinda like "Heh..." then kinda walked off. Oh well I've explained it to him a million times, what a mullet.
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Anyways who's up for a game of grab ass?
If you ever need a hug, just ask.
Shut up. It's past your bedtime.Originally posted by CheesyMoo
Anyways who's up for a game of grab ass?
edit: shut up
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Agreed. Last time I checked, Linux, Mac, Windows, and even Unix, were not solely meant for programming, or else they would have no purpose. They are meant for productivity, each one with it's own unique qualitys.Originally posted by Govtcheez
What about "there's no such thing as a programmers OS"?
if you were to call *nix, bsd, etc programmers OS's it's because of the aforementioned ability to tweak the kernel as you see fit, and the fact that it comes with programming tools (compilers etc) No version of windows has ever come with a compiler, DOS didn't even have one (at least i don't htink it did, all it had was debug if i remember). So, from that standpoint, *nix, etc comes out of the chute as more programmer friendly.
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> So, from that standpoint, *nix, etc comes out of the chute as more programmer friendly.
I guess so, but that's pretty silly to say. It takes 10 whole minutes to download a compiler.
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>>10 minutes
plus another 10 for the assembler, another for the disassembler, etc etc etc
That and MS's compiler for instance has a lot of proprietary stuff, and you can only develop programs that will run on an OS, no stand alones
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What about QBasic? LOL!Originally posted by Waldo2k2
No version of windows has ever come with a compiler, DOS didn't even have one (at least i don't htink it did, all it had was debug if i remember). So, from that standpoint, *nix, etc comes out of the chute as more programmer friendly.
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Which is really minor, considering the benefits, IMO. Besides, not everyone needs an assembler and disassembler.Originally posted by Waldo2k2
plus another 10 for the assembler, another for the disassembler, etc etc etcSo don't use MS's compiler...Originally posted by Waldo2k2
That and MS's compiler for instance has a lot of proprietary stuff, and you can only develop programs that will run on an OS, no stand alones
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> Is Linux Really A Programmers OS?
That depends on what you call a programmers OS. In my opinion each OS for which a set of programming tools is available to create applications for is a programmers OS. So yes, Linux is a programmers OS in that way.
And about support, I think for Windows there is also a lot of programming support. Perhaps for Linux and Unix-variants there is more, I don't know. I think it also depends on what you want and expect.
> So don't use MS's compiler...
Yep. GCC and its tools are downloadable for free, also the source, and there are ports for Windows. And there are more free or open source programming tools available for Windows.
> and you can only develop programs that will run on an OS
With the GCC tools or any free downloadable assembler and toolkit for Windows you can build OS'es. I guess that is what you mean with "stand alones".
