me too, y do u guys have 2 be so negetive for?? think, teleportation on the finding, a star trek scifi..right around the croner...and u guys don't wanna try it??..DAMN.Originally posted by vasanth
....But if this tech was available i would be the first to try it..
"This principle states that the more accurately you try to scan or measure an atom or other object in order to teleport it, the more you disrupt its original quantum state, and so you cannot create a true replica. "
"an inaccuracy unless there's something I'm ignorant of. You can look at atoms, I've got pictures of atoms in my chemistry book, humans can't look at electrons or anything smaller because our eyes absorb photons, but those photons transfer enough energy to electrons and smaller particles to move them"
The uncertainty principle applies to atoms but is more of an issue when dealing with smaller particles like electrons. The original statement is correct; you cannot observe a quantum state without altering it.
Incidently the pictures in your chemistry book are either completely made up, or they are pictorial representations of the probability of finding an electron (depending on what level you're at), based upon mathematical solutions of a rather abbreviated version of the wave-equation, rather than a "picture" of a real atom.
the method of scanning all atoms, copying them all, and then putting them in another spot, is not the only method of teleportation conceived by our minds.
there are other theories on how teleportation can work in the universe, and only one theory is being explored in this thread.
There is also a theory of teleportation in which you rip a hole in space itself and use that hole to instantaneously move to another spot in space.
We could live forever. I remember on Star Trek, I think season 5... the old engineer scotty put himself in a teleportation matrix and had it use the ships power to keep the information without it dissipating. Then he came out 70 years later.... we could live forever! We could have games like Unreal Tournament! We could all blow eachother up, then come back to life... then die again. Hehe! It would be great! One day any of us could wake up and wonder what it would be like to be hit by a Semi Truck, or what it would feel like not to use a parachute when skydiving. Hehe, then we would hear school kids argueing "Oh yea! well I've died 56 times already!" Hehe, it would be great... but I dont really understand the significance of transporting a photon, or how you would know you did it.... like isn't that the same as saying "I took a bright light and shined it on the wall..."??
E=M*CēI forgot to mention why teleportation was so easily achieved by scientists today, its because they only managed to teleport light; no need for scanning atomic structures and energy -> matter conversion. Light is 'homogeneous' so all they had to do was read the light, send the data in the form of electricity to the receiver, and the receiver reproduced the light. the title given to that article - "Teleportation takes another step" seems like "1 down, 998 to go".
i think that says enough. the strange thing about light is that it can be seen as a wave (like radio-waves) but on the other hand light can be seen as a matter.... well im pretty sure einsteins theory will be involved.....
if it would work with humans it would be great.
<<thinking bout myself within 30 years sayin>>
"Beam me up Scotty"
<<in a flash im in the vault of a bank then i page scotty back and then im a billionaire and i'll drink all day, being lazy, becoming old>>
::background flows::
snap back to reality
oh there goes gravity
:::::::flow........:::::::
DIALOG: This file is too large for word pad, would you like to open it in .....Originally posted by Travis Dane
When a human being has broke down its info is stored in, lets
say, a text file.
c++->visualc++->directx->opengl->c++;
(it should be realized my posts are all in a light hearted manner. And should not be taken offense to.)
LMAODIALOG: This file is too large for word pad, would you like to open it in .....
Originally Posted by Salem
I don't think that people will be a ble to do Teleportation as it's in Science Fiction, not in the near future...
none...
There was no season 5 on the original Star Trek series. I don't remember any episode where that even occurred. It may have been in one of the Star Trek novels, don't know. In one of the novels or movies Bones did mention the destruction/duplication issue.Originally posted by Xei
We could live forever. I remember on Star Trek, I think season 5... the old engineer scotty put himself in a teleportation matrix
Teleportation in this manner may or may not be possible, but it seems like it would take prohibitively massive amounts of energy to use on objects at a greater than atomic scale.
The "rip a hole in space" idea isn't actually teleportation, it's faster than light travel. Teleportation in this example is constrained by the speed of light.
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Okay, in Star Trek: The Next Generation, on, I think, Season 5(It might be 6) the Enterprise finds a world which has some sort of shell around it. Meanwhile they find another shuttle which was attached to it and inside of the Teleportation matrix they Find 'Scotty' from the original Star Trek series(The one with Kirk). If you want I can search the set of DVD's and find the name of the episode.Originally posted by salvelinus
There was no season 5 on the original Star Trek series. I don't remember any episode where that even occurred.
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Sorry, my mistake, assumed you meant the first series when you mentioned Scotty.
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text from the bookIncidently the pictures in your chemistry book are either completely made up, or they are pictorial representations of the probability of finding an electron (depending on what level you're at), based upon mathematical solutions of a rather abbreviated version of the wave-equation, rather than a "picture" of a real atom.
text next to a picture of a bunch of gold atoms on graphiteYou might think that because atoms are so small there would be no way to actually see them. However an instrument called the scanning tunneling microscope allows individual atoms to be seen.
all on page 91 of 'chemistry and change', all four authors have graduate degrees.A mound of gold atoms (yellow, red, and brown) is easily discerned from the graphite substrate (green) it rests on
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Ah i see, i thought you were referring the molecular models usually used to pictorially represent atoms/molecules.
Personally i don't really think the term "see" should be used in the way your books uses it; the colours for example are not indicative of the actual colour of the material, they are merely labels and added afterwards. Whilst the technique is exeedingly usefull i think it would be a mistake to believe that those pictures are what atoms "really look like".
STM works a bit like an old record player you a have a fine needle that is passed over a surface, bumps in the surface cause it to move up whilst dips cause it to move down. It is remarkable technology but it cannot break fundamental laws of physics like the uncertainty principle; in order for it to work current has to be passed through the material being examined, as such altering its state.
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One more thing - teleportation is not instantaneous. You are capped at the speed of light. so to teleport from one end of our galaxy to another will take 100,000 years [non dilated time]
I wonder if the person which is teleported actualy has any knowledge of the time passing by.. I mean..you wouldn't exist for a 100,000 years right?
Anyway, I think teleportation is a good way to transport stuff, like a shipment of food, not human beings.
Also, if we are able to rebuilt a human being via this technique, then this would be a great "cure" for people who lost limps, like an arm or something. Or remove all the aids cells out of a person infected with aids.
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Actually, it would seem instantaneous to you. Time, according to Einstein, is relative. At the speed of light, time relative to the rest of the universe is zero.Originally posted by XR3D403
I wonder if the person which is teleported actualy has any knowledge of the time passing by.. I mean..you wouldn't exist for a 100,000 years right?
This why there's the paradox of the twins, one of whom is sent into space at 90% the speed of light for a year (as measured on the spacecrafts's clock) before returning to Earth. For the twin who stayed behind, 60 years (or whatever) have passed. Space twin has only seen a year go by.
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