View Poll Results: Who was first, the hen or the egg

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  • The egg

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  • The hen

    7 20.59%
  • Both

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  • The eggnog

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Thread: The hen or the egg?

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    quote:
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    Originally posted by Travis Dane
    Who came first, the egg or the dinosour?
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    dinosaurs layed eggs, dummy!
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    Originally posted by kevinalm
    What is the plural of paradox, anyway?
    paradoxes
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    My thoughts on this whole issue. Yes the chicken evolved from something that slowly approached on a genetic level what we now know to be the chicken. But, at this last step prior to the egg being known as a chicken egg, it was in fact the egg of the ancestor creature and not a chicken egg since it was created from this ancestor and not from a chicken in the genetic sense. Once the chicken hatched from this ancestor's egg, it was then able to reproduce using its own, i.e. chicken, eggs. So, my answer is that the chicken came first. Make sense to anybody else out there? I see no paradox here at all.
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    >>>
    it was in fact the egg of the ancestor creature and not a chicken egg since it was created from this ancestor and not from a chicken in the genetic sense.
    <<<

    No. The combunation of the genetic material of the two parents lead to the mutation that would be a chicken, thus the fertilised egg was an embryonic chicken, from which the first chicken hatched.

    The fact that a non chicken laid the egg is irrelevent. The egg preceeded the chicken.
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    The fact that a non chicken laid the egg is irrelevent.
    To me at least it's entirely relevant, its not a chicken egg. The chicken egg only comes into existence once that first chicken starts to breed. The thing inside the egg is a chicken, but the egg itself is not a chicken egg, it is the egg of whatever we want to call the creature that came before the chicken. That's just how I see it.
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    To me at least it's entirely relevant, its not a chicken egg. The chicken egg only comes into existence once that first chicken starts to breed. The thing inside the egg is a chicken, but the egg itself is not a chicken egg, it is the egg of whatever we want to call the creature that came before the chicken. That's just how I see it.
    That's how I figgure it. It only makes sense you know.
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    Originally posted by hk_mp5kpdw
    The thing inside the egg is a chicken, but the egg itself is not a chicken egg, it is the egg of whatever we want to call the creature that came before the chicken. That's just how I see it.
    That would depend on what you consider a chicken egg. If you call chicken egg the egg that was lyed by a chicken or the egg whose creature that is inside is a chicken.
    Personaly I consider a chicken egg any egg that contains a chicken inside.

    BTW, is it just me or do my explanations seem very complicated? Oh, well. At least they give me good results in my exams...
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    the egg

    definately the egg.

    Somehow, two different types of (species)- mated and laid an egg that produced the chicken (or in this case the hen).

    The chicken didn't come from magically appearing out of nowhere.

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    Re: the egg

    Originally posted by Terrance11
    definately the egg.

    Somehow, two different types of (species)- mated and laid an egg that produced the chicken (or in this case the hen).

    The chicken didn't come from magically appearing out of nowhere.
    two different types of birds I mean, not species

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    >>> two different types of birds I mean, not species

    Does not "different types" = "species"?

    The thing with most such hybrids is that if the resulting offspring is viable, it is usually sterile. Mules for example.

    Every now and again, nature throws up a suprise though...

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    >What is the plural of paradox, anyway?

    paradoxes

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    > BTW, what's an eggnogg?
    Egg, mixed with milk, mostly.

    A drink. A very fattening one too.
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    Originally posted by Shadow
    > BTW, what's an eggnogg?
    Egg, mixed with milk, mostly.

    A drink. A very fattening one too.
    I think we can cross that option out then. Hmm... didn't my Spanish teacher (later science) have a similar recipe to clear the voice? It was something similar to that, or maybe just egg and sugar. Maybe just egg. Should try one of these days but I don't dare to drink that (can't be bothered either).
    Just to keep with this thread's topic. I stick with my egg choice
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    Eggnog

    raw egg
    milk
    sugar
    nutmeg

    Some recipes add other spices but those are the basic ingredients. Sounds revolting but actually not bad. Tastes like a super rich milk shake. Got to be careful about salmenela though. You can usually get it pastuerized in the supermarket dairy case.

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    I think the chicken came first, created the same way as whe
    where, from bacterias.

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