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    actualy the slabs of refined iron(steal) are at your local power plant. structured in a way to produce and control energy

    ahhh here comes clyde to scientificaly analysize our completely stupid and dare I say true thread about aliens!
    if a contradiction was contradicted would that contradition contradict the origional crontradiction?

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    The good book is "Watch the skys A Chronicle of the
    Flying Saucer Myth" by Peebles.

    Aliens only shows how far people today will make up stuft given
    a little bit science. We put too much trust in men today.

    Its really interesting becuase alot of the abductees say that the aliens gave them all this information, like how they only come at night becuase the sun burns them. Have you ever heard of an abduction account during the day?
    ... Because they are dreaming.

    And it cant just be one massive hoax where so many people around the world just decided to make it up while under hypnosis. Under this state, you cant make this up becuase they're tapping into your subconscience.
    Their subconscience wil lie just like their conscience.
    Maybe they're uncovering their inner fears from comic books.

    "Genesis also implies life on other planets"
    Show me the passage.
    It implies life somewhere else. Not that this matters, but it's interesting that I was taking the creation of Eve from
    Adam's rib symbolically. Could Eve be the first
    clone?

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    >> ... Because they are dreaming.

    So they dream the same events? There were massive patterns in claims. All recounts were done hypnotically.

    >> Their subconscience wil lie just like their conscience.

    Thats not possible. It cant just create these images in their minds, without something to cause it.

    >> actualy the slabs of refined iron(steal) are at your local power plant. structured in a way to produce and control energy

    So you are saying that iron produces energy? Thats not possible according to the law of energy: energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be transformed. So, its possible to harness the energy inside magnetic material for uses in other things, but no energy lies within iron, hence none can be extracted.

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    >> Their subconscience wil lie just like their conscience.
    Thats not possible. It cant just create these images in their minds, without something to cause it.
    Media and images seen consciencely will effect the subconcience.
    It's no wonder that the ufo myth started with people
    seeing "normal people" to people seeing the x-files.
    I recommend that you get Peebles book. I found it a bit
    boring since I was convinced by the first 100 pages.
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    Thats not possible. It cant just create these images in their minds, without something to cause it.
    I know it's possible... because I've done it myself.
    Not about aliens either. Don't even trust yourself.

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    ...but there were patterns! All these people's experiences were consistant with eachother. Even to the last detail. Im not saying they're all true, im saying most are. Prove me wrong

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    "So you are saying that iron produces energy? Thats not possible according to the law of energy: energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be transformed."

    ........ Iron is a "magnetic material", it is what magnets are made out of.

    Electricity is created by spinning a magnet. It doesn't violate thermodynamics because it requires energy to spin the magnet in the first place.

    " So, its possible to harness the energy inside magnetic material for uses in other things, but no energy lies within iron, hence none can be extracted."

    Bollocks, IRON IS the magnetic material.

    "And it cant just be one massive hoax where so many people around the world just decided to make it up while under hypnosis"

    It is very easy to lie under hypnosis, which is why it is not used as proof in a court of law.

    Listen to me face, whenever people who know what they are talking about take any of these claims seriously they find them to be hoaxes, every time.

    Why exactly would the US government be spending 4-5 million dollars on SETI if we already have aliens zipping all over the place?

    "Have you ever heard of an abduction account during the day?"

    Right because if there were they would easily be disproved because people would have been around to see the supposed events hence they would be immediately thrown out as nonsense.

    "like how they only come at night becuase the sun burns them."

    Do you understand how unbelieveably stupid this stuff is? Aliens with supreme technology who can't even make a space suit that protects them from the sun!?

    "I was talking bout solid magnetic material. (eg. what magnets are made out of.)"

    Yes.... that would be iron.

    "sarcasm]Yeah, thats some really good proof that there is no God...[/sarcasm]"

    Since i (and many others) have refuted that absurd argument about a zillion times already on this board i don't feel the need to address it again. If you want the answer do a search.

    "They dont use conventional light bulbs."

    They told you this did they?

    "nd last time I checked, the light bulbs in my house weren't being powered by slabs of iron"

    Actually..... they are.

    "Prove me wrong"

    Every time these cases are examined in detail they fall apart.
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    pehaps I should have said produce usable energy. there, bettter?
    if a contradiction was contradicted would that contradition contradict the origional crontradiction?

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    ...but there were patterns! All these people's experiences were consistant with eachother. Even to the last detail. Im not saying they're all true, im saying most are. Prove me wrong
    Hypnosis really shouldn't be trusted as proof. Whoever's
    doing the hypnosis could be filling in missing details. Since
    the mind is in that state it is very acceptable to persuasion.
    Another reason is that they might be lying together. Before
    you say it's not in our nature to do that. There have been many
    hoaxes of adductions such as Adamski. These hoaxes show
    a pattern over the years that responds to media and political
    climate.

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    >> ........ Iron is a "magnetic material", it is what magnets are made out of.

    Which is what they want from our planet to power everything.

    You cant just say that they're lying while under hypnosis. How could it be one massive coincidence that all these people saw a UFO, found sergically placed marks on their bodies, then later while under hypnosis told a story of abduction, similar to other's experiences?

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    Can you give me the name of the specific case or
    better yet a website. We can't argue against specifics without
    knowing the specifics. (:

    You cant just say that they're lying while under hypnosis. How could it be one massive coincidence that all these people saw a UFO, found sergically placed marks on their bodies, then later while under hypnosis told a story of abduction, similar to other's experiences?
    I have no doubt that an entire family or even 100s
    of people can and will lie. Hypnosis isn't yet a science. The
    examiner could be like
    <g>: I then saw this bright light.
    <h>: Now what did you see in the alien space craft.
    <g>: I saw a bunch of needles and scientific devices

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    Yeah, I had a whole year in my life that I was obsessed with hypnosis. I bought a bunch of books and tapes and stuff and the one thing they repeat in all of them is that if you try to go have someone go back to a memory that doesn't exist, they will create one. You can say "Go back to when you were in Disney World," and if the person never went, they often times still will create a situation spontaneously. It's like a dream. The person doesn't have to want to lie, but based on things that happen to them and what the person performing the hypnosis says or what they may think happened to them during the time that they are going back to will all play a role in what they experience while under hypnosis. It makes it easier for people to pull back memories, but it also makes it easier for them to imagine something which didn't happen and they often times have no idea what is and isn't real, just like when you have a dream and you don't necissarily realize that you were dreaming until you wake.

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    >> Can you give me the name of the specific case or
    better yet a website.

    Never trust websites (or things written by nuts on forums )
    Last edited by face_master; 01-02-2003 at 05:55 AM.

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    Originally posted by Polymorphic OOP
    yes, because we are all god-fearing bible-believing baptists from Freehold here on the cboards as seen by the "God" thread
    Big threads scare me

    And no, no interesting thoughts here
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    ">> ........ Iron is a "magnetic material", it is what magnets are made out of.

    Which is what they want from our planet to power everything."

    Right because you can't find iron like anywhere else in the universe.......

    Dontcha think it might be a little easier for them to mine uninhabited planets for iron? Hrmmmmm?

    "You cant just say that they're lying while under hypnosis."

    Lying, being fed suggestions, imagining,etc.

    "How could it be one massive coincidence that all these people saw a UFO, found sergically placed marks on their bodies"

    Evidence? Oh wait yes you read a book.

    "then later while under hypnosis told a story of abduction, similar to other's experiences?"

    Its all bogus, whenever people seriously investigate these claims they fall apart.

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